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Not what she was referring to actually
Holy hell she fought real aliens?
The folks in the casting department were the real heroes.
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It wasn’t until the “Avengers” actors filmed the iconic moment where the camera spins around the superheroes as they prepare to fight that Johansson realized there was great potential in the comic book team-up film.
That’s a paraphrase of her quote, but I went with that because it expresses what she was saying better.
With that handled, I gotta say that the scene they’re talking about still hits me.
The first time I saw or, I cried happy, blissful tears. I had goosebumps. I still get goosebumps, and there’s times it still brings a tear to my eye.
I don’t know if I can express how awesome that moment is. Yeah, the iron man, cap and thor movies had been incredible too. But there was something special about all of that buildup coming together, with all those characters that I liked or loved being there for real, not in animation.
Yeah, I know there was plenty of CGI, but there’s a difference. It isn’t the same as a cartoon, it just isn’t.
It’s a top ten movie moment for me. Top three if I’m being honest, though picking any of those as better than the others isn’t possible for me.
It was fucking magic
okay don’t take this the wrong way but… why? it’s not really a character moment, and it wasn’t payoff for anything, it’s just a camera spin.
Not who you asked, but I’ll say that it was an emotional moment. That was the first time the Avengers really felt like a team.
It wasn’t “a” character moment; it was the moment ALL the characters put their differences aside to save the world. The camera spin captured that extremely well.
i guess my main gripe is that none of it felt real. the threat was just weird (alien tentacle monsters i think?) and the characters never feel like they are inhabiting the place due to them all being larger than life. so the pan just felt formulaic to me.
Yeah. Comic book movies are fun because they’re unrealistic, but being unrealistic opens them up to other problems.
that’s not what i meant by “real”. of course they’re unrealistic, that’s the point. i was more pointing to the fact that the characters and the world do not mesh, they don’t feel like they fit into the world around them. like, spiderman movies are all super textured due to peter and miles being well-integrated into the world, but the avengers films just feel like theme park rides.
Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification. “Theme park rides” is a good description.
I’m interested to see how James Gunn handles Superman. One of the points is supposed to be that Superman isn’t the world’s first superhero. Others have been around for at least a few years; hopefully more. I wonder how that will affect the “feel” of the integration! You’ve given me something else to look for!
i’m almost convinced that it’s impossible to make interesting stories with superman as the main character, just because the entire crux of the character is that he can’t integrate. he’s like dr. manhattan, or godzilla, or unicron; just too powerful to work as a protagonist, but very interesting to write a world around.
uncritically building a superman story will always necessarily have to hand-wave some random reason for why he can’t just vaporise the antagonist on the spot, and it’s always the same hand-wave.
like, the iron giant is not about the iron giant. that’s why it’s good.
Well, for one thing, I’m a sappy old bastard.
For me, it was a culmination of decades as a comic fan. The comic medium is amazing and allows for some great things. But what it lacks is the immediacy and immersion of something that’s “alive”. Animated movies and shows bring some of that aliveness in for sure, but there’s always the barrier that it isn’t “real”
My first super hero animation experience was Spider-Man and his amazing friends. Then it was super friends. As fun as they were as a kid, not exactly top tier, you dig?
The Superman movies with Christopher Reeves were my first live action superhero experience. But have you ever seen the 70s/80s Marvel stuff? Totally different experience there. Then there was the chain of Batman movies, with varying degrees of success, but no progress on the Marvel side at all.
Until we got Spider-Tobey, and the Bana Hulk. That’s when the path to what has become the MCU started. Spider-Man was being done but Sony though, and it had flaws. Bana Hulk was visually solid enough, but was weird as fuck otherwise.
So, enter the baby MCU. Norton Hulk, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor. Those were all amazing. High production values, great scripts, perfect casting, but most important, they stayed true to the spirit of the characters. For the first time in my life, I was seeing not just comic movies done right, but some of my favorite characters being done right.
And they had started building up to the Avengers fairly early in that, showing us old fans that they weren’t just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks any more. There was intent, and that brought hype.
Now, it may not seem like a big deal, but at that point in my life, life fucking sucked. I lost everything; the ability to work, a long term partner, and was struggling through a lot of shit.
Enter the Avengers. All that hype, all the decades of disappointment as a marvel fan, and now there’s what may be the best super hero movie ever made.
And then there’s that scene. It’s a moment where all the characters found themselves as a real team for the first time. That scene was the culmination of all of that. It was a payoff. It was a character moment. I might even argue hard it was the real climax of that movie, not the eventual conclusion with Loki.
It was just a camera spin on a technical level, but it was also bringing a comic panel into life. Visually, that spin was taking a fairly common comic scene of the heroes uniting and rallying from static 2d into a dynamic shift towards the kind of reality live action can bring.
I’m a comic geek, and a film geek. And I was a geek that was in the perfect state of being to be totally immersed. That immersion, which was partially built across multiple previous movies, made the scene more than its technical parts.
That’s why it worked on an emotional level for me. It was not only a great comic moment, it was a great film moment. And it was hope.
So, one part personal, but also some incredibly deft film making
man i never got that impression from the movies before. they just felt like flailing forward, kevin feige style. i’m happy that you got all of that out of it but i just never did.
Fair enough :)
So if I get a job Macdonalds it has to be “cool” and pay enough for me to retire on in a few months? Fuck right off.
Why is she even being asked about shit like this in interviews? She’s been out of the MCU for fucking ages now and, like many of the OG stars, seems to utterly over it. Thank goodness we have such an awesome bunch of actors in the New Avengers who honestly seem to be enjoying themselves and the people they work with.
The interview was about her entire career, where they played clips from most of her biggest movies and had her comment on what she thinks about them now. Honestly, the quote they used for the headline is very clickbait since it makes it seem like it was a bad thing, but when you see the video its innocent and fits better when she explains the entire situation. She had no problems with any of it, just that they were all young and couldn’t get the entire vision of what was being created but obviously loved the time spent on it and made a lot of close friends.
You got me - I didn’t actually read the article and fell for the clickbait headline.
It happens to the best of us.
Yeah why are people interviewing Scarlett Johansson asking her about movies she was in
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