• jet@hackertalks.com
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    7 hours ago

    Health effects associated with consumption of processed meat, sugar-sweetened beverages and trans fatty acids: a Burden of Proof study

    Study title… CNN title is only about meat.

    A meta-analysis of observational epidemiology

    All of the issues with epidemiology apply

    • association is not causation
    • hypothesis generating only
    • healthy user confounders
    • people eating meat are often eating high carbohydrate diets
    • metabolic context of the participants
    • food frequency questionnaires filled out yearly or every 4 years.

    I don’t have access to the paper, it hasn’t made it to the Free Academic circles yet, so I haven’t been able to read it.

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    8 hours ago

    Not the same a US Francfurter and one from the EU, which has a strict regulations regarding preparation and content. US food in general is one of the most unhealthy of the first world, due to additives banned in the rest of the world, to disguise bad and cheap quality.

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    8 hours ago

    The only things not linked to cancer are the things not yet been studied. Seems like everything at some point has been linked to cancer.

    The data showed that people who ate as little as one hot dog a day when it comes to processed meats had an 11% greater risk of type 2 diabetes and a 7% increased risk of colorectal cancer than those who didn’t eat any. And drinking the equivalent of about a 12-ounce soda per day was associated with an 8% increase in type 2 diabetes risk and a 2% increased risk of ischemic heart disease.

    Sounds like a correlation… someone who eats one hot dog and drinks one soda per day is probably doing a lot of unhealthy things.

    It’s also important to note that the studies included in the analysis were observational, meaning that the data can only show an association between eating habits and disease –– not prove that what people ate caused the disease.

    Yup, that is what it is. A correlation. So overall not really worth the effort involved IMO. Not eating any processed meats at all is not likely a big issue, but your overall diet and amount of exercise/lifestyle. I would highly suspect that even if you did eat one hotdog per day, but had a otherwise perfect diet for the rest of the day and did plenty of exercise, got good sleep and all the other things we know are good for you then these negative effects would likely becomes negligible. But who the hell is going to do that? That’s the problem with these observational studies - you cannot really tease out the effect of one thing out of a whole bad lifestyle.

    I hate headlines like this as it makes it sounds like you can just do thins one simple thing and get massive beneficial effects. You cannot. You need to change a whole bunch of things to see the types of reduction in risk they always talk about. Instead they always make it sounds like if you have even one hot dog YOU ARE GOING TO DIE.

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      8 hours ago

      Is everything we eat associated with cancer? A systematic cookbook review

      I personally think the reason EVERYTHING is linked to cancer, as well as the massive surge in cancer since the 1900s, is all due to the modern metabolism (sugar burners) being very different then pre-1900 metabolism (fat burners)

      • High carbohydrate load, high blood glucose load, high insulin levels
      • Industrial Oil, systemic body inflammation
      • Agrochemical contamination of food supply, more systematic inflammation

      The problem with these observational studies is they don’t look at the modern metabolic context, so in this context, yes EVERYTHING is associated with cancer - because the studies arn’t looking at the right variables.

      This is exactly why hard science doesn’t use association to draw conclusions, epidemiology is hypothesis generating only

      If you haven’t read about the Metabolic Theory of Cancer I highly recommend giving it a read. It’s a much more compelling model, and explains the surge of cancer since 1900, as well as actionable steps to reduce incidence (reduce sugar and inflammation).