Trump is probably on the list, so he has to protect that. The Democrats had it during their entire presidency; even if they didn’t want turmoil during their time in office, they could have released it after their presidential defeat and before Trump took office.
Because it isnt a list of sex offenders. Its a list of contacts, clients, whatever. Just having a name on a list from Epstein doesn’t mean anything beyond being suspicious. It doesn’t prove anything by itself. But the public doesn’t care about that. So the people on that list need to be protected, they are innocent until proven guilty. You can’t and shouldn’t want to make it public.
There is no deep conspiracy necessary. Although powerful people are implicated due to being on the list, or actually did things that are fucked up. The fact none of it got public isnt proof of conspiracy, rather of a functioning legal system. And it wouldnt surprise me if these papers simply never got handed over to any politician, despite their claims.
And them asking stupid questions like ‘hand me over the list of child molesters that epstein made’…which doesn’t exist. Lets not forget that most of these Trumpets are exceedingly dumb.
The justice system is working as intended. Working people are disenfranchised. The powerless create myths when the system can’t be criticized. We are all dumb, but power belongs to the owning class.
I think a lot of people are missing a crucial point about Epstien, his ties to Israel. Our government may have a list but it is not theirs to release.
The blind support US provides for the genocide makes me wonder if Israel is the one with all the kompromat everyone says Russia has
Or maybe they both do
Because wealthy and powerful degenerates on both sides of the aisle are on the list.
One of the few times “both sides” is not only accurate but appropriate.
This is also the same thing that makes them vastly different.
We call for the heads of the corrupt on our side instead of worship them.
Ive heard that many Republicans are pissed at Trump and Co about the lack of progress here since child trafficking was a big part of the QAnon bullshit. On the left, many people were willing to forgive genocide to get a paltry win at the ballot box so I can’t say either side really has the high ground.
Forgive may be a bit generous, at least in a lot of cases, I’d even argue most cases. We knew it was an inevitability with the only choices we had.
Maybe it’s accurate more than you think
Different policies, same people.
If people can come together on this, it could be the moment the USA tears down the entire establishment and probably gets rid of the two-party system.
lol
Sadly, that won’t happen if both D’s and R’s have people or large financial supporters on the list. Best case I can imagine is that those top people end up in jail which shakes up both parties. The 2 party system is a result of our voting system (winner takes all for most positions), so it’s bad to have a 3rd party similar to your own (which gets your own voters potentially siphoned off), or have be a 3rd party similar to another party (which means you’re weakening the party closest to your own, and helping the party most different from yours). regardless of whether it affects the 2 party system, getting that list published is important for justice.
It’s likely heavily reinforced by your voting system but 2 party systems aren’t unique to that system, even in theoretically better voting systems you frequently end up with very similar results. Australia as a case in point. That said if current electoral trends continue we could be seeing the end of that here and at least our system theoretically allows that to happen.
God I wish I had that naive enthusiasm still.
Wouldn’t those that are not paedophiles want to clean house on both sides of the aisle. I mean , I get playing politics, but protecting paedophiles goes far beyond that.
Maybe there aren’t any who aren’t pedophiles?
Because the list DOESNT EXIST as our Truth Telling Administration has TOLD US! All you STUPID LIBTARDS who thought the CLINTONS WERE RAPISTS were WRONG!
This is all you fucking do. These shitty little comments that are supposed to look like irony, but are empty and mindless.
What’s the deal? Why have you put in that much time on lemmy making essentially the same comment over and over again? Like, often enough that I don’t even have to look at the user name when there’s a comment like this, it’s going to be you.
There has to be a reason behind it, some kind of thing in your head that makes you think it’s a beneficial hobby, so what is it? Help a motherfucker out, I don’t like blocking people unless there’s no other choice, so show me the human behind the blathering.
Democrats are on the list.
The same reason every politician and government will never release them, because they are trying to protect themselves or someone else. As long as money and power remain the only things politicians care about this will never get released. And I find it absolutely infuriating that these people will always prioritize reputations over the literal r*ping of children. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of people just blatantly getting away with it because apparently every single elite is in on it.
Only war is class war.
Tbh, probably because a lot of their donors are on the list. Also, Bill Clinton.
I don’t think Bill Clinton has that much pull honestly. But important Democrats or important donors maybe.
I agree, but I think Hillary does, and it would be a personal embarrassment to her.
The Democrats had it during their entire presidency
Specificity is the path to the truth. People call out for “the list”, but don’t seem to know exactly what this is. Given that all this activity is illegal, there’s little point in storing a list of illegal sex clients in QuickBooks.
Instead, the closest thing would probably be a contact list, with people who were in on it and not mixed in. Prosecutors definitely have such a list, as it was shown in court - exhibit “GX52”. This list was partly shown in the Maxwell trial, but also sealed by the judge - not Democrats. Supposedly it contains “many, many, many, many names” including some with “massage at Palm Beach”.
Now you could say, why didn’t Biden tell the DOJ to release that list. Probably for the same reason he didn’t tell them to drop the prosecution of Hunter, which he later pardoned him for. Be cynical as you want about the separation of the DOJ and the president, (which Trump has consistently ignored) Biden did make a show of upholding it. And releasing the list to embarrass Trump would be a pretty blatant violation of that principle. It would also probably violate the seal order, making DOJ attorneys vulnerable to contempt.
Because It’s one big club that’s playing theater for the masses. They’re all on the fucking list.
Probably because there is no actual list. And what would that ‘list’ actually mean?
Do you think Epstein killed himself?
Well yes. Why would you come to another conclusion, one that’s not based on some conspiracy theory?
A list of high profile politicians, actors and other celebrities that all used Epsteins child rape services…
Yet there’s no such list. Maybe not take all these conspiracy theories for fact.
How do you know? It would be quite odd for there to be zero paper trails from running a child sex trafficking ring of this size. Its absurd to claim that there is no evidence of it.
Yet there’s not actual any evidence supporting the claim that there’s a child sex trafficking ring going on. Or was going on. Which is weird for the scale it supposedly was. That’s what’s absurd.
Well since footage doesn’t show anyone coming to his cell when it happened, it’s one of the two options left. Either he did it himself or natural causes.
lol you think bill gates and his friends would allow their pet democrats to do a thing? lol
Same reason
ongoing investigation, they still cling to norms. even if pedophilia wasnt bipartisan they wouldnt have released it.
they also could’ve dismantled ICE but they like fascism.
It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it. And the whole club is on the list.
The obvious is that Dems are on the list too. Which is undoubtedly true. Even more omportantly than that donors. But the fact that Merrick Garland was involved and he’d never to anything to make Trump look bad ever should also be remembered.
