I had heard they had rewritten it in go and got a lot more performant, not sure what else they have done. I don’t care much about the politics as long as it’s still open source (is it?).

That said, I’m a happy nextcloud user and I don’t see a reason to switch (after moving both data and db onto SSDs it’s much faster, so maybe php wasn’t the bottleneck).

Well, here’s the official “community maintained” docker repo:

https://github.com/nextcloud/docker

https://hub.docker.com/_/nextcloud

There’s a section about docker compose, I have my own scripts but I believe I derived them from there at some point (my memory is a bit fuzzy). I use the fpm-alpine image, if it matters.

Yeah, their AIO setup is just bad, the more “traditional” and community supported docker compose files work well, I’ve been using them for years. They’re not perfect, but work well. Nextcloud is not bad per se, but just avoid their AIO docker.

Same, I use the fpm-alpine image with mariadb, though if I had to start today I’d probably pick postgres instead. Other images are probably fine too.

And you don’t have your notification bar on the phone full of upload errors?

I get a bunch of upload errors for photos that I delete or move before nextcloud has a chance to upload them, those are safe to ignore. Not sure which errors you’re getting…

Can you get to older photos in under an hour, while Nextcloud slowly loads one thumbnail per second?

Forget about the plain nextcloud photos app, use the Memories app (incl. the android app).

Not as good as immich, from what I understand, but if you already have nextcloud, or need more than just photos, it works well.

It is really unbeleviable how there are some people for whom Nextcloud just works, and the rest of us.

It’s definitely not perfect, but since I was able to set it up to work well for me, I’m keeping it, at least until I have time to install immich and figure out how to sync the two (and maybe get a more powerful server to use its ML features). I’m currently running it off of a decade old chromebox …

I have years worth of photos backed up from my phone (android) on Nextcloud, it’s working pretty well… but it matters how you set up the auto upload and a few other things, and I’mnot claiming it’s without issues.

For example, I set it to move files into Nextcloud’s folder after uploading, so they appear as locally synced, and can be deleted to free up space if needed (maybe even automatically, not sure). Also, I set it to also upload existing files, because since they get moved, anything that’s still there clearly needs to be uploaded.

There are a few issues viewing media from the app, sometimes, but I use the Memories app :)

I’ve been meaning to try immich, looks pretty good, but I use Nextcloud for much more than just photos, so I’d have to keep both and have them sync somehow, and I’m not sure how to do that.

Was this with podman or rootless docker?

I also would like to switch to rootless, I have some experience with podman and, while I generally like it, it’s not 100% compatible with (rootful) docker, and can have performance issues if you’re not careful, especiallt with certain file systems like btrfs. I wonder if rootless docker is now better than podman, or preferred for some other reason.

If I understand correctly, nextcloud automatically updated … which I didn’t think it would, normally. Maybe it’s a “feature” of the AIO docker image?

Never upgrade to the latest and greatest of … anything really, especially in production. Let others test it first, or as suggested already, have a staging environment where you test the upgrade first. I guess you can still downgrade nextcloud though, especially if you have a backup.

Are you using the AIO image? I don’t know how well that works, but yeah, I absolutely hate automatic updates like that. I tried it once and I decided to use the plain “official but not supported” docker image instead, where I manage things myself. Never had an issue, and I can control which version I’m running, I can backup to wherever I want, using whichever system I want, etc.

If you want people to take you seriously about being open source, you need to have a git repo, like github, gitlab, etc. you can even self host one. Heck, you can even use a different (non git) DVCS, but not just a link to a cloud drive…

That’s possible, I’m using Firefox, is that something firefox would do?

The site does use https for me… it instantly redirects from http to https

My point is, since its meaning depends on the context, I don’t see the issue for it to mean, in the context of containers, “outside of a container”. Just like in the case of VMs, or OS vs No OS, it means there’s one fewer layer between the app and the hardware, whether that’s a VM, Container runtime, or the OS.

I’m pretty sure everybody, including you, understood its meaning in this context, it didn’t really cause any misunderstanding.

That’s only the meaning you’re used to, and that’s my point. It depends on the context. I can assure you that, in the context of microcontrollers, for example, “bare metal” means running without an OS.

Well, since we want to be technical … Docker is not bare metal. Linux apps are not bare metal. Arduino is bare metal.

I still run it on a 10 year old chromebox (replacing chrome with linux of course). It’s really not that heavy. If it seems very slow, I’d try rebuilding the database from a dump (if mysql/mariadb), and making sure the db is on a fast drive. At least, those two things made a huge difference for me. Also, some people reported huge speedups switching to postgres.