Lead Lemmy Developer, Dessalines, denying the Tiananmen Square Massacre and praising the Uyghur Genocide

https://sh.itjust.works/post/8419342

Dessalines AKA “parentis_shotgun” on Reddit, is the main Lemmy dev, also the admin of lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml.

Their post and discussions on Reddit (archive as the original post must have been removed):

https://web.archive.org/web/20230626055233/https://old.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/cqgztr/fuck_the_white_supremacist_reddit_admins_want_me/

Please join the discussions for Lemmy.ml tankie censorship problem:

https://lemmy.world/post/16211417

And the discussions for finding/creating alternative communities on other instances:

https://lemmy.world/post/16235541

What is a tankie?

Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes or their allies. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

  • randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
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    6 months ago

    The solution is to build up more attractive alternatives of those communities elsewhere, not endlessly campaign the existing users to just drop them.

    Agreed. Maybe I should try creating and managing a community some day. (hopefully this didn’t come off as sarcastic)

    The current fedidb stats, to me, state that 488 people is, colloquially speaking, nobody.

    This is a wildly misleading and unfair comparison. Let’s take the Trump verdict as an example. The most upvoted post about this issue had ~2700 upvotes. But that’s only 6% of the MAU! Is that “nobody”? Obviously not. 2k upvotes is a huge deal on a rather small community like Lemmy. How often do you see posts with more than 3k upvotes?

    ~500 upvotes is already a moderately large number of upvotes. You need to compare the number of upvotes on this post with how many upvotes other posts typically get.

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      6 months ago

      Fwiw (our disagreement aside), moderating a community anywhere online can be a very rewarding, and very thankless job. And it really can be a thing that feels like a job if the community is active enough.

      But I would still recommend at least trying it for a few months to see if whatever subject matter you make it around draws users. That’s when you get a real feel for moderation, and have the best chance at helping the overall fediverse work well.

      I also think that moderating a big community would change your mind at least partially regarding vote numbers as a measure of anything significant. There’s behind the curtain stuff that usually gives a better indication of how a given post/subject is being received by the individual community. It depends on the tools available, and lemmy is a wee bit scant on tools to help moderators gain understanding of the population of their C/; but it’s still eye opening.

      The biggest thing I think you’d notice in comparing people interacting with a given post is that most votes happen because of a title. People scroll past, see a title, and vote based on that. And that’s the ones that bother to vote. A lot of people don’t. They’ll click a link, maybe open that post and read comments, but just not care enough to do anything else at all. Back on reddit, that was a majority of posts, and I know it was the case on other forums back in the day.

      So, yeah, disagreement about the numbers in this case aside, if you’re this interested in how a vote using forum works, moderating your own would be a very cool experience on top of diversifying the instance/community balance.

      • randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
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        6 months ago

        […] is that most votes happen because of a title. People scroll past, see a title, and vote based on that.

        Wow, now that I think of it, that is indeed how I vote most of the time.

        Thanks, I will seriously consider opening a community.

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      6 months ago

      I didn’t necessarily think you were being sarcastic, but I appreciate the clarification.

      You’re correct, that was a rather shallow comparison for me to make.

      I don’t think raw upvotes give the full story either. I’d be interested in seeing, for example, from which instances the voters are distributed.

      • randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
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        6 months ago

        I’d be interested in seeing, for example, from which instances the voters are distributed.

        That would be interesting indeed! I heard that if one hosts their own Lemmy instance, they can see who voted on every post. Don’t have that for now though.