I’m trying to give someone advice on choosing a career that will suit them better than the one they’re in and hate. I wanted to get together a list of good questions for them to ask themselves so they can use the answers to compare options like “do you prefer to work sitting or moving around,” “do you want to not work weekends” etc.

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    To not know would be like working in a company and not knowing your bases of operation, or like being a lawyer without having been to law school, so the assertions inspire either inexperience or skepticism. The actual social work institution (not just “working for society”) has its management divided across the US into subregions that typically encompass a few states, and they encompass your jurisdiction. If you were a CPS agent (which is a social services subunit), for example, the absolute limit in which one could relocate children without needing to consult another level of power would be the edge of a district. Each district also varies in their expression of authority, and thus experiences with people are different in each, but generally this institution known for addressing issues of abuse and handling insurance changes is corrupt in America as well as nations unfortunate enough to have modeled their equivalent after the American system, the CPS in particular has thousands of examples of footage of them breaking into homes to take children who haven’t even experienced abuse. If you consider yourself a social worker, I’d seriously suggest you look into who you’re working for.

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      Are you a troll? There’s not a shred of reality in anything you just wrote. The federal government has no role whatsoever in any CPS function, it’s entirely a state-based system. This is also just completely made up:

      The actual social work institution (not just “working for society”) has its management divided across the US into subregions that typically encompass a few states

      The social work profession doesn’t have a singular “management,” there are state licensing boards the same way there are for doctors and nurses. Licensed social workers work for literally thousands of different agencies and there are no “sub regions that typically encompass a few states.” Even better, almost none of the CPS caseworkers in my state are social workers. Social work has basically nothing to do with CPS. Where did you learn any of this?! Try to learn it again

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          Please share one link describing your “districts.” You linked an Erie County site lmao.

          “Social services” describes anyone providing social services in any setting, including child welfare, prisons, schools, hospitals, or any of the thousands of other governmental and non-governmental organizations. “Social work” is a specific education and a regulated and licensed profession that provides some social services in addition to psychotherapy. They aren’t the same thing. CPS is one tiny segment of the social services field, which is massive. I’m sorry you had a bad experience with CPS wherever you are, based on your other comment, but your experience is not even slightly representative of the field in the way you portray it to be.

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            Do you have something against the usage of the DSS site of a local area to use as an example of one which proves my point about the CPS being one with social services? You are not using the term in the institutional sense if it’s not specific to human resources, though I concede about one of the other parts, I mixed two of the maps up despite the same idea applying (I forgot the US district map and the state one were distinct). It is more or less similar to what I was saying.

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              I have something against someone saying “social services in the entire US are a nightmare” when they’re basing that on only their experience with their local New York CPS office, and then condescending to me that I’m not familiar with some New York state department district map when I don’t live in New York.

              You are not using the term in the institutional sense

              Well let me go tell the nationwide hospital system I used to work for and my county mental health authority they got it wrong lmao.

              I’m sorry you had a bad experience with CPS, but I take away from this conversation that you know absolutely nothing about that it’s like to work in any social service organization, and definitely have no grounds to criticize the entire field.

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                I have something against someone who has something against someone who says it’s a nightmare (aside from all the other things I’ve given to back myself up already, not to mention being anecdotal to complain I’m merely being anecdotal when I’m not), it’s called loads upon loads of distributed stories and footage by people from all across the nation. What it’s like to work in an organization doesn’t take away from the hardship of dealing with those who do that work, the latter is the very reason I turned down doing the work. It could use some reforming, no matter what positives can be made of it.

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                  No argument from me that many CPS departments have serious issues, but that’s CPS, not “social services,” which is a term that includes homeless service providers, hospital departments, mental health authorities, housing nonprofits, food banks, and so many more, and I can’t believe I’m still trying to communicate this to you since it’s clear you’re never going to get it.

                  A CPS department is a social service, but 99.5% of social services are not CPS. All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.