Most Apple users want the “cage” for its near-mindless security and privacy. I used to troubleshoot and diagnose PCs all day. I got tired of managing my HTC Windows phone in 2008 and went to iPhone. It’s similar to running Windows Home for the smaller attack surface than Pro, or trading admin for user rights. I love not having to worry about the reliability or maintenance of my daily driver.
Do you have a source on what they provide the NSA? According to their privacy policy they don’t access customer data unless they receive a warrant requesting iCloud data, and they have no access to data on the phone itself or what is transmitted.
source code. you can link legal documents all you want to try and shift blame from apple, but fact is, privacy is still an illusion with them unless we can investigate their os for backdoors.
the snowden leaks are well estabilished fact by this point and no amount of “but its not their fault!” will change it regardless of if its true or not.
The source code is proprietary. They’ll never release it. If Snowden has proof, then where is that?
Since both claims are unprovable, let’s look at the evidence and motive.
You believe that Apple would spend all of that money fighting the FBI in court just so they could give the NSA a backdoor that is in direct violation of their privacy policy, potentially exposing them to a massive class action suit from users, and does not benefit them in any tangible way.
They didn’t do anything “with Apple”. The NSA added splitters to fiber optic lines to steal information. Apple never collaborated with the NSA, nor gave them information willingly.
Most Apple users want the “cage” for its near-mindless security and privacy. I used to troubleshoot and diagnose PCs all day. I got tired of managing my HTC Windows phone in 2008 and went to iPhone. It’s similar to running Windows Home for the smaller attack surface than Pro, or trading admin for user rights. I love not having to worry about the reliability or maintenance of my daily driver.
I spend all day dealing with computer issues. I never have to deal with iPhone problems. It just works.
Well, sometimes I need to restart it. Lol
the privacy is illusory. apple collaborates with the nsa
Do you have a source on what they provide the NSA? According to their privacy policy they don’t access customer data unless they receive a warrant requesting iCloud data, and they have no access to data on the phone itself or what is transmitted.
Recently: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/12/apple-admits-to-secretly-giving-governments-push-notification-data/
edward snowden. according to his leaks they have been doing it since the early 2000s.
the only mechanism companies can use to disclose it somewhat is a warrant canary, and apple doesn’t have one.
I don’t put faith in everything Snowden says without explanation. Do you have a link with a detailed explanation of how this backdoor works?
Apple discloses warrant compliance on their legal site.
https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/law-enforcement-guidelines-us.pdf
you’d rather put faith in a corporation?
do you have the source code we can actually review for backdoors?
So I’m guessing you don’t have a source for me?
I have one for you. It’s the history of legal battles between Apple and the FBI.
https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/
source code. you can link legal documents all you want to try and shift blame from apple, but fact is, privacy is still an illusion with them unless we can investigate their os for backdoors.
the snowden leaks are well estabilished fact by this point and no amount of “but its not their fault!” will change it regardless of if its true or not.
The source code is proprietary. They’ll never release it. If Snowden has proof, then where is that?
Since both claims are unprovable, let’s look at the evidence and motive.
You believe that Apple would spend all of that money fighting the FBI in court just so they could give the NSA a backdoor that is in direct violation of their privacy policy, potentially exposing them to a massive class action suit from users, and does not benefit them in any tangible way.
Time to take off the tin foil hat.
They didn’t do anything “with Apple”. The NSA added splitters to fiber optic lines to steal information. Apple never collaborated with the NSA, nor gave them information willingly.
thats simply not true