For those who don’t know that area, there are multi-use paths (north and south side) separated from the road on Victoria St, where this cyclist was hit.
For a car to hit someone, they would need to be turning in or out of the business entrances without stopping/looking, which would mean they were at fault 100%.
No charges have been laid, but hopefully this will change.
Far too many cyclists being killed in Ontario. When are we going to take things seriously?
I took my bike apart again to change a bunch of stuff and drove the little 90’s golf I borrow from time to time. Parked at work next to a ram, an f150 and some other monster I didn’t recognize. The hood of each towers over the golf and reaches about my eye level. Nobody ever hauls anything in these shitty things. They should require additional licensing and permits. These are always the guys that try to pass without fully changing lanes where the road signs indicate cars and bikes are single file, and only to stop at the light and get passed by me again, but thankfully that is where the bike lane starts.
Kitchener is one of the more bikeable/walkable cities in Ontario and victoria street is one of the better bike lanes for a road of it’s size. really sad to see this, the driver would have to have been doing something particularly reckless.
Or the biker wasn’t riding safely.
Investigation is still open so let’s not jump to conclusions.
Such a bad take. Even if he was riding recklessly (no indication in the article that he was), would he deserve to die if he was riding along the road on winter? How would that work exactly? Are you imagining him charging at 2 ton truck with a meter high hood?
What a stupid question. I’m not even going to answer it. God damn that’s stupid.
Funny how on these threads where someone lost their life always someone rushing to don their cape to defend the poor driver who killed someone.
Here is the section of road that the article points out:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ksovy1GtfntNsBKq6
If he was on the bicycle path then the SUV driver must have been particularly negligible.
Yes, IF he was on the bike path it seems clear the SUV was in the wrong but nowhere in the article does it say if he was on the bike path.
Is this place turning into /r/fuckcars cause damn people, let the investigation finish before making assumptions?
let the investigation finish before making assumptions
From reading the article, we can infer that the SUV must have been booking it for the cyclist to sustain multiple serious injuries.
This article from 2011 claims that in the case of bike fatalities from bike-motor accidents, it is slightly more likely that it was the motorist at fault.
So I’m going with the driver at fault, it’s more statistically likely.
You can ‘go with’ whatever you want. You’re still assuming from nothing.
IMO, even if the cyclist wasn’t “riding safely”, the onus of ensuring safe roads should be on the people driving tons of steel at high speeds, as well as the various levels of governments involved in a city’s infrastructure. I’m not familiar with the area, but the comment you originally replied to indicates that the infra where the incident happened was bike-friendly (at least for Canadian standards, which are admittedly quite low).
I agree with not jumping to conclusions, but I find odd your decision to jump to the defense of the motorist. No amount of “safe cycling” can protect you from over a ton of metal ramming into you at speed.
(Also, I’m curious as to why you seem to dislike /r/fuckcars. I have a hard time imagining anyone who cycles not being on the fuckcars-bandwagon. I guess people who see cycling purely as a hobby/sport and not a utilitarian means of transportation, because in my experience anyone who cycles around cars long enough usually isn’t a fan of them.)
What world do you live in where I jumped to the defense of anyone? I merely made an opposite assumption, to prove either assumption could be right and that we shouldn’t assume anything unless we get all the facts.
I hate /r/fuckcars but it’s pure reactionary garbage where people who seem to not have cars, shit on people who do. Saying guys with large trucks have small penises or no one should ever own a car for any reason etc. It’s childish pure and simple.
I live in a city where we have bike paths nowhere near roads so when I cycle in, or scooter in, it’s a non-issue. When I drive, I often see cyclists in the middle of the road as if they were a car so they end up blocking traffic. I can see why people hate on both sides, but I don’t subscribe to hating someone for doing something different than me. /r/fuckcars embodies that hate.
Me: Here’s my reasoning along with supporting evidence.
You: You’re still assuming from nothing.
Referring to a article from 2011 doesn’t mean you’re arguing with reason. You’re using facts from 2 years to assume why the SUV was at fault, while the investigation is still going. You really think you’re some sort of Columbo don’t you?
