I want to donate to a linux phone. I believe in linux and I want a linux phone. Maybe we can use one in very few years as a normal daily driver. It’s getting closer and closer every month.

I want to donate that we get there sooner. But which project? I’m following postmarket but I’m not sure if they are the most promising. What’s your stance on this? To which project would you give your money to accellerate it?

Edit: I don’t want to buy a phone. I want to support the phone os devs. Sorry for the bad wording.

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    Android isn’t kinda Linux, it is actually Linux. It includes other proprietary stuff too, but Google regularly contributes their changes upstream. Like it or not, android is a prime example of what is possible on mobile using Linux.

    Yes, I agree that OP isn’t looking for Android and wants to support an alternate option. But here’s where I think our disconnect is: the goal wouldn’t be for the alternate option to be a difficult to use, niche, build-it-yourself headache. That’s never anyone’s goal for anything. The goal is to make something roughly as good as, or better than Android, except FOSS.

    It’s just that it takes funding and vision to make something as feature rich as android, and both are hard to come by.

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      No, it’s kinda linux.

      Android is a mobile operating system (32-bit and 64-bit) based on a modified version of the Linux kernel and other open-source software, designed primarily for touchscreen mobile devices such as smartphones and tablets.

      It’s based off of linux but not literally linux and why if you call it a linux distro you’ll be questioned. Just like English is based on French but if you start telling people you speak French because of it you’ll have confusion.

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        It’s common for Linux distros to make changes specific to their distro. Adding and removing modules, adding custom changes, and offering those changes back to mainline. This is how Linux works and what makes it so great.

        It’s not as though Google hard forked Linux 15 years ago and have just done their own thing ever since, they’re regularly merging Linux LTS. Here’s a diagram from Google of what that looks like.

        MacOSX is a hard fork from Mach, which fits your French analogy more accurately. Android is more like a Boston accent; it’s a dialect but never very far from it’s origin.

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          You do realize that kinda linux right? You’re right it’s closer to a boston accent but if you generally ask people about the american accent it’s not going to be boston they think of. I’m not denying it is based on the linux kernel because it is but Android is the most popular OS in the world, it can be it’s own label as opposed to saying it’s linux. To nit-pick further is some real “It’s not linux, it’s GNU/Linux” energy.

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            Yeah, I feel like at this point you’re not even disagreeing, you’re just saying I’m wrong because you don’t want to be wrong. You didn’t even give me anything to refute this time. That’s fine, you’re right, cheers.

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              I’m not saying you’re wrong, you’re totally right. I’m saying that you don’t understand colloquialisms. The type of person who would hear someone refer to salt intake in food as “sodium” and go on a tirade about how it’s sodium chloride and ignore that they fully understood what was meant but chooses to be as difficult as possible because they want to be right. Generally the type of stuff that would get people shoved in lockers.

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                Lol man, we’re just so far off topic from the point I was trying to make though, which is that a user friendly mobile experience built on linux is totally possible, it doesn’t have to be a “build-it-yourself” headache, it doesn’t require interfacing with a CLI, and we don’t even have to wonder if that’s true because it’s been done and is massively successful. That’s all. If you’d like to nitpick whether it’s “actually Linux” or “kinda Linux” I’m just gonna give you a swirly.

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                  I initially said it was based off linux not kinda linux and we’re here. I’m saying it’s kinda linux because Android is never referred to as a linux phone but an Android phone.