And why did you stop watching them?
Tobuscus was goat but then he got accused of something by his ex or whatever, never cared much about it, but he disappeared and now he just writes books or something. He was one of the old school GOATs next to MatPat, Markiplier, ERB. Sadly missed.
Safety Torch was my childhood
@zachimusprime44 RelaxAlax and ProJared. Sure, they both came with rather flimsy reasons to state that the allegations against them were apparently false, but I didn’t buy them.
Used to religiously watch a guy that played the same video game I was into. He was incredibly good at it, well-known in the game’s community, did how-to guides, build guides, super nice, just wanted everyone to have a good time, wanted everyone to excel in the game, good-natured, just an all-around awesome dude, etc.
Then I dunno wtf happened, but 9 years later he’s become a total fucking elitist asshole who does nothing but complain about the game and the gaming studio, doesn’t seem to give a shit about the little guy just trying to learn the game anymore, it’s like he did a 180 in personality and now has a “git gud” mentality. He made a video of him declaring that he was leaving the game, and he did, for like a month, then promptly returned once his viewership clearly went down. I unsubscribed at that point. He became a total whinebox bitch and I lost all respect for him.
Sounds like a Rust YouTuber.
Dr. Disrespect?
True Vanguard
TotalBiscuit
… Fuck
Still miss him
My interest in gaming plummeted after he passed.
I was also in this position, there is so much gaming content out there but the whole state of journalism seems to have really fallen off.
Last year I discovered MinnMax though and some of my faith has been restored. They are a community funded group of journalists and enthusiasts who run a weekly ~3 hour podcast about games and the industry. They are mature, lucid, insightful, and also pretty funny. They’ve also been doing a yearly best-of list for a long time which is a good jumping off point if you want to dip your toe in. Definitely recommend for anyone interested in gaming and the industry.
Same here, friend. Still hits me every now and then when I see a Steam game with a recommendation from his curator page. Doesn’t happen too often these days, but still the occasional older game I haven’t picked up yet goes on sale.
Especially this week.
I’ll never forget him for introducing me to dungeons of dredmor, the game is the bad roguelike, but I don’t know if I ever would have gotten into roguelikes without it
I’ve never heard anyone else mention Dungeons of Dredmor! That’s the game that taught me how much I loathe total randomness in roguelikes. Without it I wouldn’t have discovered Dwarf Fortress, Cataclysm, and a host of others where your skill actually matters, so even though I hated DoD I’m glad I picked it up after TB’s video.
(And the artist of Dredmor later ended up on the development team of my literal favorite game ever, Starsector. Weird how things turn out.)
This one hits hard. “Gaming YouTube” isn’t the same without him, I don’t watch many gaming videos nowadays
Guy was a legend, I bought Terraria because of him. His voice and style was amazing. Rest in piece!
:(
A big loss. I’m still wondering what happened to his family since then. I heard they got out of the USA?
I’ve understood the dogs got new owners, Genna moved to South Korea.
What about the kid?
I can’t remember hearing anything about him, I also couldn’t find anything with a quick search yesterday.
LTT due to their amount of scandals
CGPGrey. I even listened to his podcasts.
For someone who tried to sell productivity tools at one point, he was very unproductive.
Also, given what happened with Standard and Nebula, I got to say I side with Nebula over him.
I didn’t like his take, “solving” traffic nescitates the use of self-driving cars. Can’t have traffic without cars, it’s as simple as that. We need public transport, not more shit to spend our increasingly scarce money on.
What happened? I’ve never heard of it
Him and Kurzgesagt were helping to build an organization for YouTubers with the current CEO. The first talent signed on was Wendover and Real Engineering.
Grey and Kurzgesagt were rather inactive partners when they should have been more active and were trying to build a much more exploitative company instead of what Nebula became. It is vague on how they left, but they left and the company became better for it.
Sorry, do you mean the current CEO of Nebula or of YouTube?
Nebula
So Nebula got rid of him (which would seem to coincide with his drop in output)?, Kurzgesagt seems to be doing just fine in comparison.
I found his video on FPTP Binary political systems video to be logically flawed and I think it ultimately caused more harm than good. It’s irritating to see people reference it in political discussions today. That eventually convinced me to stop giving him views.
Yeah, it’s weird, CGPGrey videos used to be the most must-watch of all YouTube for me and I subscribed to his Patreon at one point. I listened to Hello Internet loyally and I was even unhurt about how it ended. I still think he’s an interesting guy and would follow his stuff again but he doesn’t seem to be doing anything of interest to me any more.
What happened with Standard/Nebula?
I responded to someone else, but there is a reason why Grey isn’t a part of Nebula.
his videos started getting sparse/boring
I still watch his main videos (when they actually happen…), but with a much higher degree of scepticism than I used to. And I stopped listening to his podcast (singular…).
My disillusionment with him started with a few issues with his videos. The blatantly ridiculous “royal family is good actually” video. The less obvious but no less egregious touting of Guns, Germs, and Steel. The AI techbroism of his automation video. Then he just killed off the podcast with no explanation, leaving his cohost Brady to put out a note saying “yeah we’re just on hiatus for now”. Over 4 years ago that was. There was the fact that he sided very vocally with Kurzgesagt in the CoffeeBreak drama, despite CB obviously being in the wrong at every step of the way.
Then the final straw where I was no longer willing to say I was a fan of his was when he did a video about some missile silo in America, in which he used the name of a submarine-based missile instead of a land-based missile at some point. Shortly afterwards he put out a massive mea culpa video saying it was a “catastrophic” error that he could not live with himself for, and that he holds himself to too high a standard to let that stand. All while still not acknowledging the problems with those earlier videos. So one nitpicky detail gets a massive hullabaloo and a retraction, but fundamental flaws in the underlying thesis of the video gets nothing? Give me a break.
What drama, and if sided with Kurzgesagt when they were in the right as you say, what is the issue?
Oh whoops! My mistake! I’ll edit the above comment to fix that. It was Kurzgesagt who was in the wrong.
The drama was (to copy/paste an earlier comment, because it’s rather lengthy):
It started when a YouTuber whose channel is called Coffee Break reached out to Philip of Kurzgesagt as part of a video he was doing into the flaws of popular science communication. Specifically, about some significant errors in K’s video on Addiction. Instead of agreeing to collaborate, or even giving a simple “not interested, sorry”, K took an instant accusatory tone, claiming CB must have been making a “gotcha” piece. CB and K agreed that they would talk more about the matter to try and assuage K’s concerns, but K kept stalling while working on a retraction video, at which time K took down the video that was the impetus for this discussion (shortly after, as one of those aforementioned stalling efforts, having said “I never could bring myself to take it down”, claiming it would be “cruel and unnecessary” to do so—funny, considering in his AMA attempting to spin the story, he said “I was really stressed out about the addiction and the refugee video for years. Being finally open about my mistakes and deleting them felt like weight leaving my body.”). The Refugee video was also taken down along with the Addiction one that CB was interested in.
K claims to be interested in science communication. But here, he decided to make the selfish decision to do what he thought would protect his own personal brand through duplicitous means. He got ahead of the story that falsely assumed was coming, and put up a pre-emptive response to that. Now, CB isn’t entirely blameless. In response to the above, CB put out a rather hot-headed reaction to the whole incident. He didn’t follow up with K to try to understand what had happened; he lashed out in anger at K’s self-righteous arse-covering video.
And then CB started getting harassed. K called out CB, and many of K’s friends (other very large, powerful YouTubers such as CGP Grey and Philip de Franco) made very public statements to their audiences attacking CB. It ended up forcing CB into taking down his video, deleting a whole heap of tweets explaining what happened, and putting out an apology. Perhaps it was an apology that CB should have indeed made, but the need for an apology from K was much, much greater. And one never came. K used his larger platform to spin the narrative so that his large audience, and now also the general public who becomes aware of this, almost all take his side.
Incidentally, here’s the video that CB was working on at the time. Hari, the scientist discussed in the video whom K worked with on his video discussed earlier, communicated very well with CB on it.
Thanks for the great breakdown, it sounds vaguely familiar. I remember K’s retraction bit and I follow Philip DeFranco. Disappointed he landed on the wrong side.
For what it’s worth, Philly D is someone I could have answered the original question with too. Not for any spectacular reason like the above—I had already stopped watching him before that occurred. For me it was just finding his focus was too much on sensationalist pop culture news rather than news reporting that interested me. He wasn’t doing anything wrong, it just wasn’t right for me.
Yeah he definitely can veer too much into that stuff for a time. I strongly dislike his thumbnails and titles but I feel he has to do that to compete but I do like his content, some days just less than others.
I only ever saw that Royal Family video of his, and it was enough for me never to seek out any more.
Have you seen this response video to Grey’s Royal Family one?
i love Shaun’s videos, but this is one of my favorites. the way he “negotiates” with the royal family is just chef’s kiss.
I haven’t, but I will definitely watch that, thanks! 👍
All of them.
Hyperbolic but there is some truth there
Boogie2988. I thought he seemed like a reasonable, unbiased person when I was watching around 2016. Kind of just moved on with my life after realising he was just following YouTube drama.
Have checked him out in the last year or so and it’s not looking good for him. The really sad thing is that he could have just taken his money and lived a chill life, but he seems to want a spotlight and to feel important even if it’s because people are shaming him for being a washed up b list youtuber.
Most recent thing i heard was that hes pushing crypto scams on his fans and feigning ignorance when confronted with the fact that his fans are losing money directly because of him
Gross. I heard he lost a hell of a lot of money on crypto and hookers, so that checks out.
MatthiasGaming: I felt like when he got bigger his personality changed, it almost became like a show/fake persona.
Arumba: Became a cranky unhappy person unfortunately…
A fewl (I don’t want to give a platform): Became angry biggots:X
Jesse Cox/Pewdie Pie/Markiplier: outgrew the sense of humor/entertainment.
TLDR: Usually some change in personality alienated me.
In terms of the gaming ones you listed I only watched markiplier. Specifically the FNAF stuff. That was a lot of fun almost 10 years ago when it was novel and new. But now the genre is so played out and the whole “scariest game scream at the camera” thing, while maybe based on something genuine then, became obviously forced and annoying after not that long.
Upisnotjump. It’s just not my thing anymore
Ask a Ninja.
Viscount Strophanthus. My first androgynous crush. In hindsight the content was pretty edgey and cringe, though.
Too many to list.
They all either:
Died
Got cancelled
Pandered to a younger audience of which I am not.
LTT and their other channels. I only watch because of Emily/Anthony. Now that she’s not active in videos anymore, I just lost interest and realised that Linus and those two hosts of Techquickie annoys the hell out of me.
I actually still like some LTT videos. I just find the thumbnails off-putting … so unless the topic interests me I don’t typically watch anymore.
I really enjoyed the Emily/Anthony bits too.
I just use DeArrow so I don’t know what the original thumbnails are. Thank God.
Every time I open YT on my tablet I am extremely confused what the shit titles and thumbnails are. DeArrow is one heck of an essential extension.
+1 for DeArrow, sometimes I reveal the original just to see how atrocious the channel will be with clickbait thumbnails.
i still enjoy some of them every once in a while, for entertainment value and the crazy stuff they do.
but that whole overworking and treating his workers like shit debacle turned me off the channel by quite a lot.
Anthony was great, always loved how in depth they were on whatever tech they were talking about.
I like Jake’s videos on networking too. I love how nonchalant he is when it comes to certain things that would just never fly where I work. Makes for good entertainment.
Other than them, I like tech linked and game linked to stay up to date on tech and game news.
I always found the fact that he thinks Nebula is not a viable business and only exists to sell out and get a big payoff says a lot about Linus and his way of thinking.
I fell off LTT once I fell into his massive pile of rich people problems videos. Like, there was one where he was complaining because his WiFi didn’t reach to the gate of his mansion.
Yeah, tech quickie is full of great info but they are just trying wayyyyy too hard to be fun and quirky.
Wait, Anthony is Emily now? I guess I missed that one. Anyways, everyone seems to talk about them in the past tense which is concerning. Are they no longer doing videos?
She has a video on YT on her own channel about that. Pretty sure the problem is the… negativity against her. She appeared in one or two LTT videos for a brief moment though. And there is at least one video by her on floatplane. But I am not following anything actively so that is the only info I have.
Anthony was great and so full of super geeky information, hopefully Emily will make an appearance at some point but i fully understand if she doesn’t. Internet can be a ruthless place.
AvE after he went full crazy
Yeah, wanted to comment exactly that. You could literally watch him become crazier with every upload. At first I did overlook the odd comment, but he eventually went full nutjob and I had to unsubscribe.
Yeahhhhhh, I used to recommend his channel to young engineers and techs because of how thorough he was at explaining the how and why of mechanisms. I don’t anymore which is a shame because he was knowledgeable.
Wait what did I miss?
Anti-vax, supported the trucker rallies, called Trudeau a Nazi
It’s interesting to see how much of Canada has bitten the American onion over the past few decades.
Very much same here.
