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        I don’t know the specifics behind it, but even if VPN does work, or accessing TT through a web app instead of an app, that’s still 1-2 hurdles for the average user to jump through for their fix.

        Some people will just not bother and then peace out to instagram reels or YT shorts or just drop off that kind of social media.

        It fully depends on how many users are “savvy” enough to navigate those hurdles and how badly they want to navigate those hurdles.

        In my experience when you’re working with a dedicated user base and you make a significant change, you can expect to lose around half your audience. Barriers to entry are probably going to increase that number, but obviously this is anecdotal evidence for future events.

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      I was under the impression that the TT creator fund was very minimal anyway. Or at least it was gutted recently and used to be somewhat okay.

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    I’m usually all for fediverse folks shitting on big corporate social media platforms, they definitely all deserve it. But unless I’m mistaken, and I very well might be, TT seems like it gets wayyyy more vitriol than the other big bads. Hopefully that’s not for “old man yells at cloud” type reasons.

    Anyway, definitely looking forward to Loops when it’s ready!!

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      It gets more hate because it’s owned by a Chinese company that more than likely shares data with the CCP. I assume you live in a western nation, so it’s basically the result of propaganda. Perhaps it’s warranted, perhaps not, but that’s why.

      It’s ironic because everyone flips out that China is vacuuming up information, as if the US government isn’t doing the same thing. If you think the US govt snoops that data only to keep you safe, I have a bridge to sell you.

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        As an Australian I could not care wjaty the CCP knows about me, happy to send them as many butthole or dick pics photos as they want.

        What concerns me is the invasiness of my own national government and its asshole FiveEyes conspirators. They can take my liberty. Those bastards I trust not one inch.

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        Guess the issue is that us big bads are blocked in china. So while ccp can leverage social media to monitor western countries. Western goverments can not leverage western social media to do the same in china.

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          Considering our data is being bought and sold by US companies to whoever I don’t think this is going to help with that. Tbh, I’m more scared of the US having our data than China. The US can use it to find people seeking abortions, or to track protestors trying to get human rights, or things like that. Not China. I’d rather they make a general law to preserve privacy, but this half-assed measure to preserve US monopolies.

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        As a proud patriot I only want my data sold to American big business interests! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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        Yeah, I’m much more worried about someone in my country spying on me then China, like what are they gonna do from the other side of the world?

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        It gets more hate because it is actually worse. They try to exploit the phone as much as possible even more so than the American social media spyware companies. There was a security researcher redditor post somewhere I forgot what it was, but they basically went over how much more shit tik tok was able to harvest.

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      I’m with you, it’s kind of annoying to see just how much people seethe over a platform. It looks exactly like what redditors did with IG, or TT, or emojis. I understand people’s frustrations with TT, but as someone who’s made content for both TT and YT shorts, engagement for small guys absolutely sucks on shorts and when TT is banned, there’s basically no real alternative. Not only that, but I’m also very concerned about the precedent that’s set by effectively censoring parts of the internet for Americans.

      That being said I am also super pumped for Loops, I hope there’s more updates soon because I’ve been keeping an eye on that for a while!

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    Same thing that happened to the Chinese creators on Youtube despite it being banned in China, I presume.

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    The same as what happened when vine shut down.

    Take their follows as best as they can to another platform. Continue on.

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    I don’t know why Amazon hasn’t bought TikTok yet.

    Lots of data, access to the Chinese market, a social media app under their wing, and an aligned work culture. Alongside the gains for ads, moving their shit to AWS, and retail gains, it seems like a better idea than throwing money into the AI fire.

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        Everything is for sale when you are a $1T+ company. That’s why Amazon has the likes of Blink, Ring, Alexa, Anthropic, etc.

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            That’s…exactly why you would get involved?

            TikTok might lose out on revenue. Why not sell your US arm for lots of money?

            This is literally one of the most widely talked-about options regarding the ban of TikTok…

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              They refused to entertain offers. 1T dollars seems mighty, but TikTok is a multi-year if not multi-decade data collection hub. That data is on the youth of America and their trajectories.

              That’s priceless to the power hungry. It’s not just money, it’s control.

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                That’s priceless to the power hungry. It’s not just money, it’s control.

                that’s why their banning it; they can’t control it in the way they want

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        Wouldn’t be surprised if there was an exceptionally well funded US startup that makes a debut before TikTok is blocked if they don’t sell. TikTok has to weigh the possibility that they can’t compete if they don’t exist.

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        If you base your livelihood on a platform owned by a private company, you’re not really justified if you complain about it being changed or blocked.

        Lemmy users aren’t making money from it, so your argument is irrelevant.

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        Um, actually that’s one perk of federation. It’s much harder to take down networks that are run on dozens or hundreds of servers across the globe… In other words, we already solved this problem, at least in large part.

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    There won’t be a ban. TikTok will probably end up making a U.S. only version that will satisfy congress.

    The data will be sold to a 3rd party broker who will then keep sending it to China, so nothing will change in the end.