So our neighbor’s cat has been visiting us for a while, so I decided to build this ramp so that she could more easily get into and out of our yard. I’m not much of a woodworker, but was happy with how this turned out.
It’s made almost entirely from cedar fence posts. Nearly 18 feet long (3 fence posts end to end with the dog ear tip cut off). Ripped cedar planks into 3 for a frame/support to prevent flexing. Posts are pine 2x4, and go 18 inches into the ground, which was the majority of the effort, since our ground is like cement…
Leash your cats folks…this is unacceptable behaviours from ‘pet owners’.
No. I refuse to leash my cats. I prefer a pet stroller.
Assuming you are in control of the stroller, I see no harm with it.
It’s not their cat
That’s why I said folks, and didnt direct it specifically to op.
Is this a joke that missed, or…?
You’re not entitled to your opinion when it’s objectively harmful, and letting cats roam outside is objectively harmful.
Please reflect on what you’ve written. What are you expecting to achieve by telling someone they aren’t entitled to their opinions?
No one is advocating for genocide here, so maybe redirect some of that outrage to a more appropriate place or try to be constructive in your contributions here.
LOL, you make a tone argument and yet I’m the one not being constructive?
And to be clear, what I’m expecting to achieve is to point out that the notion that it’s okay for pet cats to be outdoors isn’t actually an opinion, but rather an incorrect statement of fact. Cats are an invasive species in North America and decimate bird populations; it is objectively wrong for a cat owner to allow it to roam.
That’s very situational. If you’re in a rural or semi-rural area that has small wildcats (or foxes or similar) already, adding a handful of domestic cats isn’t going to disrupt anything much. The only reason to keep cats inside in such a place is for their own safety (from larger predators like coyotes, and from highway traffic).
If you’re in Australia, Antarctica, or a protected island biome with no native small wildcats or canids, or you have a known endangered species in the area that cats are likely to prey upon, that changes the equation. If you’re in a highly urban area, that changes things in a different way, because the danger to outdoor cats from traffic and other human activity rises exponentially.
It’s not a joke. Most pet shelters make you promise that a cat will be indoors-only unless leashed when you adopt them.
Cats kill a lot of smaller wildlife, and with the help of humans, have made some birds extinct.
The lifespan of an indoor cat is on average 3 times longer than an outdoor cat.
Leash… a cat? Que?
Letting a cat run free makes it kill countless birds, frogs, insects etc. It also endangers the cat itself. Cats should be kept indoor, or brought outside on leashes (though there isn’t a “cat proof” leash they cannot get out of sadly, so it’s risky too). The only “moral” outside cat is a barn cat, and only slightly.
Take your pills grandpa.
Very unlikely this person is a grandparent—up until about 40 years ago, most cats outside highly built-up downtown areas were allowed to free-roam, so an older person would see it as normal.
Maybe the downvotes are because 1. You kind of come off rude just telling people how to live. 2. This is the woodworking community, not the cats community
It never seems to be rude when the same words are said towards dog owners.
Community think I can kinda understand, but I never care about which community I’m in personally. Lemmy is about discussion. I use all
Dogs aren’t killing off native bird and rodent populations.
Cats are the #1 invasive animal species in terms of killing off local wildlife, well, #2 if you want to include humans.
There are certainly areas to criticize dog owners, but the two animals are not remotely close in terms of damage to local ecosystems.
What?
I’m the one that started the call for asking cats to be leashed in a woodworking forum. I think you’re misunderstanding what/why I wrote what I did.
I used the dogs as an example because it seems like everyone demands dogs be leashed in all circumstances outside, but those same people would be fine with cats being unleashed and allowed to roam free for days. I disagree with that mentality entirely. All pets should be leashed/under direct control of the owner.
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Wendy’swoodworking communityWhat?
You don’t appreciate the dedication to the destruction of every native bird species that was stupid enough to adapt and survive in an urban/suburban environment?