How much finance is needed and what’s the procedure to do so (not medical but how to approach the professionals)? Is Switzerland the only place where accepts foreigners and did they have any successful cases who used any inherited neurobiological disorder as a reason?
Thanks for your help and I would like to know more about euthanasia too. Have a nice day.
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Someone I know went to Switzerland recently, I’m not sure how much exactly it cost but I think around 25k eur. It was a degenerative disease.
Sorry, I don’t have any information for you. However, I do hope you have a nice day, if that’s possible for you.
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So with Exit, you need to have been diagnosed by a psychiatrist. So it probably takes some time, and that time has to be obviously paid. After that, a second psychiatrist checks the diagnosis for any errors. And the third actor is going to be a regular doctor, double checking for errors. If all goes well, you get the death cocktail. As things can go wrong with that, you should be accompanied by someone experienced. Exit provides this assistance free of charge, as they use donations and membership fees to pay for that.
I cannot tell you about what diseases are successful. Usually, psychological issues are not enough to get the diagnosis you need. You need to be heavily impacted by it and there has to be no cure.
I find it ridiculous that humans can’t decide to end their life if they want to. It’s crazy that the state has to allow it.
A person can decide if they can execute it somehow. Or a person can hide yourself from the decision and say “the state does not allow me”. And personal decisions are overrated. In the light of death usual rules stop working.
You can always jump off a bridge
Sounds painful with a high possibility of breaking bones then drowning while conscious. I’d recommend an inert gas that’s not CO2 and readily available, like nitrogen or something (CO2 buildup in the blood is what gives the sensation of suffocation). If you’re worried about people finding you and a mess, get an enema and stay a bit dehydrated first, and also ensure your body’s found within the first 2-3 days if possible (the first thing your corpse does is shit itself, and rot sets in pretty quickly).
This of course presumes you’re making the decision to end yourself while of sound mind, not in some panic, feeling trapped or completely hopeless. There’s usually a way out that’s not as permanent and can lead to future positive interactions that make continued living worth the pain. That said, I’ll never judge someone whose pain outweighs their will to live.
As a paramedic I’d like to mention you should think about ants, as well.
A lot of people seeking euthanasia are in a very weak physical condition, in which getting by themselves and jumping from said bridge would be a feat. This includes people who are bedridden or who have temporary memory blackouts, you have people who would if only they were allowed to leave hospital or if their families would leave them alone to do so.
People seeking this usually aren’t healthy, independent and self reliant. Those already jump the bridge.
Oh you are right, I didn‘t even think of those people. Whenever I hear suicide i associate it with mental problems. When I think about it now, I probably wouldn‘t want to live any longer if I was bedridden.
Correct. Essentially, you are not living anymore but are forced to by law and the desires of those around you who are more focused on their wants than your’s. It’s inhumane to ignore a plea for mercy, and yet that’s what people do.
Overdosing is one of the easier options, but assisted suicide always requires assistance.
There’s no good way to do it
Washington state and New Jersey specifically allow certain types of euthanasia, but I’m not sure how illegal it is – or any ‘suicide’ is – in different places. Is euthanasia a crime in your state? Is (attempted) suicide?
Murdering someone **else ** is a crime, so it is nice to have laws specifying how a person can legally help someone without being charged with murder.
The U.S. has historically not ‘punished’ suicide as much more than a misdemeanor, if at all. From PDF paper from 1962:
As stated by a leading authority on criminal law30
When a man is in the act of taking his own life there seems to be little advantage in having the law say to him: “You will be punished if you fail.” … What is done to him will not tend to deter others because those bent on self- destruction do not expect to be unsuccessful. It is doubtful whether anything is gained by treating such conduct as a crime
England, on the other hand, was very hostile to suicide until it was decriminalized in 1961 (paper is too old to mention current status):
A person who committed suicide was punished at common law by burial in the public highway with a stake driven through his body and by forfeiture of his goods and chattels to the king.’ Attempted suicide was apparently punished like any other misdemeanor.
forfeiture of his goods and chattels to the king.
Oh, well there’s a huge surprise… 🙄
those bent on self-destruction do not expect to be unsuccessful
Expectations of success are actually part of what get people there in the first place
I mean you can, you just have to do it yourself.
It is not the state. Those are regular professionals.
I partially agree that there should be a possibility to kill yourself in an easy way. But don’t forget that very often, this death wish is the cause of a mental illness, which can be treated.
I believe Australia recently approved a law which allows for assisted dying, however, I’m not 100% sure if that’s the case and if so, whether foreigners are allowed or in which state does it work.
My recommendation would be to search online for an End Of Life Companion or a Death Doula. They will be able to provide you with the information you seek, free, and if you wish, they can also assist you in person for a fee.
Good luck OP
I have no experience with this, but happened to have seen an interview with Ludwig Minelli, the founder of Dignitas (an organisation for assisted death). The man is 90+ and still fighting for this right. I believe I saw it in a video format, but I think this was the interview - I think it’s worth a read.
I’d suggest you look up the contact for the various organisations and reach out with your situation and questions to see what they say. They’re likely to be much better sources of information.
