Question I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on possibly making votes public. This has been discussed in a lot of other issues, but here's a dedicated one for discussion. Positives Could help figh...
Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.
I am kind of afraid that if voting becomes more public than it already is, it will lead exactly to more of the kind of “zero-content downvote” accounts mentioned in the ticket. Because some people are just wildly irrational when it comes to touchy subjects, and aint nobody got time to spend an eternity with them dismantling their beliefs so they understand the nuance you see that they don’t (If they even let you). So it kind of incentivizes people to create an account like that to ensure a crazy person doesn’t latch on to the account you’re trying to have normal discussions with.
But I understand that they can technically already do this if they wanted to. So perhaps it will be fine as long as we fight against vote viewing being weaponized as a community.
Yeah I didn’t realize votes were essentially public already. This will 100% change my voting patterns. The problem is, I’m an idealist who still follows old school reddit voting guidelines of “this adds to the conversation” or not…so I upvote stuff I don’t agree with as long as it is well thought out, well said, or at least civil and trying to have a good conversation. When I remember to, I also tend to downvote vitriolic nonsense or pithy nothing comments even if I agree with the values, because I don’t think it helps anyone to have annoying angry echo chambers. That’s like…the entire Internet right now, and Lemmy is already bad enough with that. It doesn’t need to get worse by making sure everyone is voting in lockstep lest they get brigaded (which there are no inherent protections against).
That’s basically how I’d do it. I think it’s super creepy to have voting public and I’m wary of people who insist that transparency involves weirdo shit like this.
I am kind of afraid that if voting becomes more public than it already is, it will lead exactly to more of the kind of “zero-content downvote” accounts mentioned in the ticket. Because some people are just wildly irrational when it comes to touchy subjects, and aint nobody got time to spend an eternity with them dismantling their beliefs so they understand the nuance you see that they don’t (If they even let you). So it kind of incentivizes people to create an account like that to ensure a crazy person doesn’t latch on to the account you’re trying to have normal discussions with.
But I understand that they can technically already do this if they wanted to. So perhaps it will be fine as long as we fight against vote viewing being weaponized as a community.
Yeah I didn’t realize votes were essentially public already. This will 100% change my voting patterns. The problem is, I’m an idealist who still follows old school reddit voting guidelines of “this adds to the conversation” or not…so I upvote stuff I don’t agree with as long as it is well thought out, well said, or at least civil and trying to have a good conversation. When I remember to, I also tend to downvote vitriolic nonsense or pithy nothing comments even if I agree with the values, because I don’t think it helps anyone to have annoying angry echo chambers. That’s like…the entire Internet right now, and Lemmy is already bad enough with that. It doesn’t need to get worse by making sure everyone is voting in lockstep lest they get brigaded (which there are no inherent protections against).
That’s basically how I’d do it. I think it’s super creepy to have voting public and I’m wary of people who insist that transparency involves weirdo shit like this.