Hello fellow pirates! I’m tired of having all the telegram premium ads and antifeatures in the client and I’m looking for a client that removed them even if it’s against the TOS. Any tips? I’d rather use an actual open source fork than a cracked version of the original

I’m looking for both Android and Desktop (Linux)

What I want is to remove the hateful ads in the channels and the “buy premium to unlock these emojis”, and also to be able to arrange the folders in whatever order I like, without being forced to keep the “All messages” as first

thanks in advance!

      • Kostyeah@lemmy.caEnglish
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        10 months ago

        My main goal as a pirate is getting stuff for free, and I would reckon that the majority of pirates are the same.

        • Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          10 months ago

          Free Software gives you the 4 essential freedoms. One of them is the freedom to distribute the program. So anyone could legally give you a copy for free. Sounds like what you want, no?

          Even if the authors implement some kind of DRM, any programmer can modify the program to remove that feature and share the modified version with everyone. Technically that is also possible with non-free software, but it’s illegal, pretty difficult and requires special skills.

    • tubbadu@lemmy.kde.socialOPEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Thanks for the link! I’m trying to install the latest APK in the releases (which is 1y old), but when I try to log in it says “you’re using an outdated version, please update” refusing to let me log in :(

    • Baut [she/her] auf.@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      10 months ago

      No one gets to decide what i run on my device

      (Except your device’s manufacturer)

      No one gets to decide where i run my app

      (Except your cloud/SaaSS provider or proprietary app developer)

      No one gets to decide what must be deleted
      (Except your cloud/SaaSS provider or proprietary app developer)

      !I assume this was your point already, I am just agenda posting over here :3!<

      • MotoAsh@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 months ago

        What “agenda” are you posting? You’re just nay-saying.

        Go eat hay elsewhere with that attitude.

        • Baut [she/her] auf.@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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          10 months ago

          I am pointing out that user-controlled computing and user freedom is in a bad shape. That’s not nay-saying, since there’s a way forward: open hardware and offline-first/p2p software.

            • Baut [she/her] auf.@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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              10 months ago

              I agree! But in at least one case the FSF’s understanding/handling of free software is ineffective: firmware. Especially with boot chain security being increasingly implemented in a user freedom hostile way, the focus as presented by the FSF is imo too narrow.

              • Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                10 months ago

                The FSF’s stance is just based on our current capabilities. Most people still use proprietary operating systems. We are capable of developing free alternatives of non-free programs, even very complicated ones. But it’s not realistic to think that we can currently replace all firmware for any device if we don’t know how it works. The amount of products that have the RYF certificate is already very small. Even Librem 5 didn’t manage to get it. When it becomes easier, I’m sure they will change the requirements or add more levels.

                I’m pretty sure Libreboot contains proprietary firmware now and GNU is planning to develop an actually libre fork. So it’s silly for the developer to criticize the FSF for not being radical enough. It makes me think that the person doesn’t really believe in what they are saying.

                But then the author says they want us to have proprietary firmware packages in our systems. So they want our OSes to be less libre… They even compare not including proprietary firmware to burning books… I stopped reading after that.

                • Baut [she/her] auf.@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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                  10 months ago

                  I am not saying that we need to replace every non-libre firmware, I am saying that not using firmware updates is hurting free software adoption and doesn’t advance user freedom.

  • Clot@lemm.eeEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Telegraher, but be aware your account may get banned (I am a premium user tho)

        • Kazumara@feddit.deEnglish
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          10 months ago

          Ah so you didn’t actually answer OPs question, I misunderstood your intent.

          • Gooey0210@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            10 months ago

            This was the answer, the best telegram client is the one that says “can’t find the app” when you press on it

      • river@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 months ago

        One simply does not use Telegram - founder is sketchy and it now primarily has alt-right, conspiracy and terrorist uses.

        I know some use it for trackers and to bootlick crackers, but it’s still not the best.

        • hedgehog@ttrpg.networkEnglish
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          10 months ago

          it now primarily has alt-right, conspiracy and terrorist uses.

          Assuming you meant “users” - I highly doubt that the users you described are even a large minority of Telegram’s user base. They’re highly publicized but that’s it.

          Telegram is just a tool. How is saying “don’t use it because terrorists use it” different from saying “don’t use a screwdriver because terrorists use screwdrivers.”

          Telegram isn’t a secure messenger like Signal, Matrix, the others you mentioned, or other e2ee options out there. It has an extremely limited secure mode that is useful if you need to have a one-off conversation, but that’s it. But if you don’t need a secure messenger and instead want something to replace Twitter, Discord, other social media, or to serve some other purpose, then it’s fine for that.

          founder is sketchy

          I’m not familiar with the folks associated with the other apps you mentioned, but Signal’s former CEO and co-founder, Moxie, is a pretty dubious character, too. Signal is anti-FOSS: you can’t use their servers if you fork the client; they won’t federate if you host your own servers; they’re opposed to being on F-Droid or even providing reproducible builds; and they have a history of failing to update their repos in a timely manner, to the point that clients built from source couldn’t even connect to their servers.

          That all said, I still use and recommend Signal.

    • tubbadu@lemmy.kde.socialOPEnglish
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      10 months ago

      apps on fdroid are all TOS-compliant, otherwise they would be removed real quick by telegram (AFAIK)

      • afunkysongaday@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 months ago

        Idk which third party apps are compliant which aren’t? There is this one feg: https://f-droid.org/packages/it.belloworld.mercurygram/ Unlocks the premium app icons for free. https://f-droid.org/packages/nekox.messenger/ This one surely has a few premium features no? Unlimited accounts feg?

        Personally I just use Telegramm-FOSS since years. Not sure what the actual differences to official client are at the moment, but this one is just fine and I’m never annoyed by premium feature ads like it seems to be the case for you.

        I highly doubt that F-Droid team removes third party telegramm apps when they are against tos of telegramm. They are actually out there defending our freedom, even and especially when proprietary services do not want us to use Foss third party apps. Google does not want you to use third party apps for their services. F-Droid still out there publishing foss YouTube clients. Give them some credit instead of just assuming they suck up to big companies.