And by ‘mature manner’ I mean, without resorting to name calling, being illogical, unreasonable .etc

I’ve recently tried addressing the immigration issue and as expected, three people just came at me emotionally charged than simply discussing the issue I’ve had with it. I’ve seen what I’ve seen, read what I’ve read of it and nothing I believe that I have a problem with it is being stemmed from some underlying hatred towards a group of people.

My problem with it is the prioritization and lack of regulation in regards to immigration. It is a serious issue. But god forbid you want to talk of it, people resort to “U XENOPHOBIC” or “WE ALL WER IMMIGRANTS AT ONE POINT!”. Just completely wiffing on the issue I’ve already presented with it.

What is this subject for you?

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Generally agree with this, and I say this as a Marxist debate pervert. However, I have managed to win over people, so it isn’t all a waste.

      • zeppo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        I have some small discussions with Cowbee and my experience was that he’s much more reasonable to talk to than most other people with similar viewpoints.

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        Different from person to person. Usually someone comes in with misconceptions surrounding Marxism, AES, Capitalism, or some other subject I happen to have read up on enough to speak on. I try to correct said misconceptions, non-confrontationally. Then, it can go a few ways:

        1. They respond extremely hostilely

        2. They are receptive, at which point I offer a an article or two, or maybe even a full reading list

        3. They are semi-receptive, but don’t actually bother countering my points, just asserting Marxism is “wrong” or something along those lines.

        4. They are a “Marxist” but haven’t read theory. By far the least receptive, so confidently incorrect. These are where the “Marx was an Anarchist” or “the PRC isn’t Socialist” types reside, and are extremely hostile usually as well.

        Honestly, it’s more of a lottery on an individual by individual basis. However, by consistently pushing back against misunderstandings, myths, and other problems, more people tend to be able to be receptive to Marxism.

        Why do you ask?