If I could only learn one additional language, and I wanted to travel the world, what language would serve me best other than English or Spanish?

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    French and Arabic are the second and third most spoken language in number of countries. Then there is the obvious Mandarin which is spoken in most of China with around a billion locutors

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      I keep debating Mandarin but my issue is how the language is tied tightly to China. Helpful if I decide to explore China in depth but seemingly less so if I want to “get by” in a large number of countries. If I had an ability to learn languages quickly, I would probably learn French, Mandarin, Arabic, and Hindi, but I think I am already pushing my limits.

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        Yeah, that’s the thing: “which language is spoken by the most people” is an easy question to answer, but “which language (or combination of languages) lets me communicate well enough to get by in the most places” is much harder because the statistics aren’t necessarily collected in a way that lend themselves to that kind of analysis.

        For example, Hindi is spoken by a whole bunch of people, but I’m pretty sure the vast majority of those people also speak English, so if you already know English you don’t actually need to learn it.

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      while China is the second biggest country in terms of population, India has the biggest population. For the majority of the world (>4 billion) to live somewhere, you’d have to take a circle with a diameter from roughly Ulaanbatar to Makassar, and draw it.

  • I’ve gained a lot in my life learning Urdu and Hindi and encourage more people to learn. They are essentially the same language with different scripts, but unlike Arabic or Chinese they are Indo European languages and are much easier to learn. I grew up speaking farsi so maybe it was easier for me but if you work in IT knowing Hindi is indispensable.

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    I just (I mean an hour ago) gave up on learning japanese via Duo Lingo. On and off for years but didn’t make considerable progress. I know about 20 hiragana symbols and a bit of vocabulary but I think I won’t ever grasp order of words or how they communicate without plurals or genders. It’s so different from germanic languages. I love the japanese culture but I just don’t have the time anymore.

    I instead started spanish. After a few lessons Duo Lingo rated me as a super learner. Don’t know if it’s because they want to sell me a subscription but I really flew through the lessons (even when I had to type out the sentences). I’ll stay with it and will add dutch soon.

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    I’m gonna second French and Arabic for sheer amount of speakers (native or as secondary language), as well as geographic variety.

    Other than that, I would’ve said that Russian would serve you well in the post-soviet sphere of influence, but that changed recently for obvious reasons. You very likely don’t want to travel to Russia, and her neighbors don’t look to kindly on Russian either, now. Will still do in a pinch

    okay, and one joke answer: Japanese, you’ll find weebs to talk to in every country

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    If you don’t know where you’re going: French is probably the most wide spread after that.

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    I’m sooooo close with French. I just need to buckle down for like a couple weeks and I’ll be fluent I think. I’ve always heard that’s a good one.

    I dunno about useful but Japanese is beautiful and I want to learn it

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    By the numbers: French or Arabic, as other commenters have mentioned.

    But it really, really depends on where in the world you want to travel. If you’re interested in Asia, for example, neither French nor Spanish nor Arabic will help you much (save for some remaining French usage in Vietnam).

    A better answer is: figure out where you want to go, then do the math on what to learn.

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    If you’re fluent in Spanish you can probably bullshit your way through comprehending most romantic languages so French and Portuguese (the other big colonial languages) are probably out.

    Maybe Arabic for the fact that while it isn’t a dominant language in most countries there are fluent communities in all sorts of parts of the world.

    Alternatively, Hindi/Mandarin for the sheer number of people it’d let you communicate with.

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      Plus fluent in Spanish opens up travel to pretty much all of South America, Mexico, and Spain. There are differences in dialect, and some South American countries speak Portuguese, but you’ll still be able to communicate.

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    Depends on the route you want to take while traveling. For example, if you want to circumnavigate in a sailboat through the tropics, French is a great choice because France includes a bunch of tropical islands:

    French is also widely spoken in Africa, IIRC.

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      There are more French speakers in Africa than there are in France and the French Language Authority is absolutley SEETHING at this fact because they’re losing control over “proper French” and for the first time ever French is evolving like a language should

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      I wonder if most of those countries people don’t speak either English or Spanish as a second language. As opposed to certain specific languages and countries were most people don’t have or use much a second language like for example in Japan or Brazil

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        In most of the places French is spoken, it is the second language (instead of English or Spanish). Only place I can think of off the top of my head where Francophones would likely also know English is Quebec and, I guess, France itself.

        The other languages in the sorts of places I was talking about are mostly ones like Arabic, various sub-Saharan African indigenous languages, or Polynesian.