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    This is all just the same toxic projection that I’ve been pointing out in this thread.

    You want to blame third parties but there is basically 0, practically negative evidence for it.

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      No, I haven’t discussed 3rd parties at all in my comment. I said 3rd party “voices”, reading comprehension meaning “commenters/online personalities” because I noted their movement to new instances.

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              So much assuming.

              My “toxicity” are legitimate concerns to not get trump, who will ramp everything up. Well look who’s here now.

              As I said, single issue stay homes, and “alternative” voices that actually only served to strike at Dems are issues I believe shifted the narrative and may have influenced the election.

              I made a thread to discuss other influences beyond just punching down at 3rd party platforms.

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                Yes we heard you the first 3 times. Its the voters fault. The Democrats are merely victims, completely maladroit at managing their own fate.

                You aren’t making different any new points or clarification, just repeating the same, tired tropes that just handed the US democracy over to fascism. And we get it, you are incapable of expanding your understanding beyond the initial assumptions you made. No need to repeat yourself any longer.

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                  Honestly dude I commented with the intent of discussing the issue but you’re just slinging mud.

                  It’s not toxicity to make an observation on forces that drove voters to not vote for harris. I didn’t say Harris was a queen and how dare they. I didn’t say the Dems ran a good campaign or a good primary or something.

                  It’s not that 3rd parties exist, or have different ideas than Dems.

                  If I MUST discuss them I would say the only actual criticism I have (omg toxicity warning) is that they only crop up, and only vocalize in popular spaces right around general elections. They need to build their platform and messaging NOW and for the next several years with the intensity and visibility they do in August-november of a general election year. Their mission and goals would be more effectively achieved

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                    It’s not toxicity to make an observation on forces that drove voters to not vote for harris.

                    To the first point I made. There is 0 evidence for this what-so-ever. This is just something you are making up to support a narrative. You have not even the suggestion of evidence to back this statement up.

                    The toxicity is a culture looking for punching bags rather than showing real introspection. Third parties were utterly irrelevant, and most of the “conversation” around them, were deeply toxic Blue-Maggots blaming them in advance for Harris’s yet-to-be-failed election. I mean, its the definition of the thread we’re in. Its what the comic is about.

                    Its literally absurdist. Everything you’ve said, the comic, the entire cult that you are a part of: its in direct opposition to all of the evidence we have.

                    And thats why I’m making these points, not because I expect to convince you, but because its important to put your, now obviously detached from reality, toxic approach to rhetoric, on display.

                    The blaming of third parties, or anti-war voters, or Muslims, or whichever punching down group you want to single out, on behalf of a Democratic party so severely detached from its own base, is the definition of Blue-MAGA behavior, and it lost the Democrats the 2024 election. Its all on tape. We’ve got it on record. Blue MAGA was told what the consequences of their rhetoric would be while they were doing it, so they can’t pretend to be naive to the consequences we all now have to experience because of their stupendous arrogance.