In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn’t feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?
I love all the comments saying “yeah well that stuff isn’t free someone has to maintain it”
YOU’RE PAYING 100K FOR A FUCKING CAR
That’s the payment. That’s what they get their money from.
Wanting more in perpetuity is fucking stupid no matter what the excuse is.
There’s also the fact that remote start, while shorter range, has existed on key fobs for like 20 years. My ex wife’s 2022 Hyundai has remote start, but only through the app, while my 2013 Focus has it on the key fob.
That’s honestly the only feature that’s bundled in those subscriptions that I really want, though the alarm notification is a nice to have.
you should absolutely choose a vehicle without subscriptions, and make a point of stating it at time of purchase
this is your one moment to make a difference
The only problem with services as a subscription is THE FUCKING IDIOTS THAT PAY FOR THEM
If nobody fell for shit like that, manufacturers would drop it like boiling diarrhea
And then you can’t use it when the temp is 0F because they decide to do some maintenance
Worth noting that these features appear to require your car to be connected to a cellular network. This isn’t the same as BMW charging a fee for heated seats.
They could have just put a SIM card in your car and required you to pay your cell phone provider for a connection.
I have something similar for my Subaru but it’s only 4 dollars a month.
It’s a fee I gladly pay to be able to start my car and set the interior climate from my phone. I imagine there’s some cost the access a network to have that functionality and I don’t see a problem paying for it.
The old style that started from a key fob required you to be a lot closer to the vehicle to start it. Right now I start it a few minutes before I leave my building a quarter of a mile away. I could start it from a different country if I wanted to. Needing to be within a few hundred feet would be pretty useless to me.
Yea… You are part of the damn problem
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You have already pay for it. Soon “cant turn Air on if you dont pay 1dll a month”
They will just keep adding stuff to this and removing it feom the “free” tear
Soon, auto manufacturers will learn what happens when buying isn’t owning.
People will definitely download a car, or the crack for all its features.
Good luck trying to do that
Auto manufacturers are notorious for having terrible security. It’ll be a cakewalk for innovators.
Sure, start sharing what car has been hacked. Any? No? But autos have had computers for years, why havent they been hacked?
Are you just posting incorrect information to get someone to list all of the current vulnerabilities?Here you go.
Jeep Cherokee: https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/
Volkswagen Group Cars: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-17738/Volkswagen.html?page=1&order=1&trc=2&sha=0a9d8cfebb47ff684cd74be5616ee6ca4ec210f6
SiriusXM (Connected Vehicle Service) (9 different brands): https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/3/23491259/sirius-xm-hack-remotely-unlock-start-cars
Thanks for the good laugh.
Lol, someone “hacked” a car so they can turn it off is not the same as building a whole OS for a car. Or are you exited about connecting to SirusXM ??
To find a car and control it remotely will need a server. That’s why it’s not free.
it looks like only way is to somehow imitate their API and change those links in the car. I think it would be cool to selfhost such server.
