Its not a joke if it is true… even if it is because of artificially induced conditions. Nobody argues that it wouldn’t be a boon being born in the EU for instance.
But it is a joke and a comic! I (unfortunately) know too many people that would argue being born into the EU is bad. If the comic labeled the punchline as EU instead of Russia would that be okay? I also dislike the fact that beings are born into the world with unfavorable circumstances but I also still think it’s a bit wrong to laugh at it and perpetuate it? Idk. Thanks for the perspective.
But certain countries are better to be born into than others. Like, I would hate to be reincarnated into North Korea or Russia. This has nothing to do with the people themselves, but rather the rules and rulers of the country. It’s not racism to dislike the idea of being born without basic rights.
My bad. I just don’t like generalizing large swaths of people and places as better/worse. Just feels like a slippery slope to saying “all Russians bad” or whatever groups of people because you believe are worse off. I get the point, I still think it’s problematic. I’m sorry
You’re not wrong. It’s really pumping up a degree of nationalism that is unhealthy to take for granted. If you change out ‘Russia’ for other countries you start see the baby’s reaction relies on prejudices on politics and current events. If it was ‘Mexico’ or ‘China’ it suddenly feels a little more racist.
It’s not racism, nor is it nationalism. I live in America, it fucking sucks here and I’d like to leave. But it’s still better than North Korea by leaps and bounds, and I would choose to be born here again if those were the only choices. Same with Russia, same with China.
Are you really trying to defend the living conditions in a country like North Korea? It’s not racist to say it sucks there, that’s just a fact.
In that line of thinking: what does the comic say if ‘Russia’ is exchanged for ‘North Korea’? Is the point of the comic just to flatly express that one nation state sucks in comparison? If so, that’s kind of a shitty sentiment–and dare I say nationalistic.
Please elaborate.
Certain countries are better than others to be born into? That’s the joke, right?
Its not a joke if it is true… even if it is because of artificially induced conditions. Nobody argues that it wouldn’t be a boon being born in the EU for instance.
But it is a joke and a comic! I (unfortunately) know too many people that would argue being born into the EU is bad. If the comic labeled the punchline as EU instead of Russia would that be okay? I also dislike the fact that beings are born into the world with unfavorable circumstances but I also still think it’s a bit wrong to laugh at it and perpetuate it? Idk. Thanks for the perspective.
EU is far better off than most of the world right now. USA is Cooked, not sure I can even talk about the rest.
But certain countries are better to be born into than others. Like, I would hate to be reincarnated into North Korea or Russia. This has nothing to do with the people themselves, but rather the rules and rulers of the country. It’s not racism to dislike the idea of being born without basic rights.
My bad. I just don’t like generalizing large swaths of people and places as better/worse. Just feels like a slippery slope to saying “all Russians bad” or whatever groups of people because you believe are worse off. I get the point, I still think it’s problematic. I’m sorry
You’re not wrong. It’s really pumping up a degree of nationalism that is unhealthy to take for granted. If you change out ‘Russia’ for other countries you start see the baby’s reaction relies on prejudices on politics and current events. If it was ‘Mexico’ or ‘China’ it suddenly feels a little more racist.
It’s not racism, nor is it nationalism. I live in America, it fucking sucks here and I’d like to leave. But it’s still better than North Korea by leaps and bounds, and I would choose to be born here again if those were the only choices. Same with Russia, same with China.
Are you really trying to defend the living conditions in a country like North Korea? It’s not racist to say it sucks there, that’s just a fact.
In that line of thinking: what does the comic say if ‘Russia’ is exchanged for ‘North Korea’? Is the point of the comic just to flatly express that one nation state sucks in comparison? If so, that’s kind of a shitty sentiment–and dare I say nationalistic.