My lower res, lower DPI display from my old Dell laptop looks much more sharp and crisp than the fancy pants Framework 13 high res display.

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    your fault for using a DE/distro which can’t even handle fractional scaling

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      Framework’s fault for poorly choosing a display with known issues.

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          I think I heard about it actually, it’s the issue where people make up shit on the spot online to confirm their biases

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          The known issue with HiDPI displays, like the one Framework chose, is that apps are blurry. Other laptops, like Thinkpad or XPS, offer low DPI displays which avoid this issue altogether. The irony is that a HiDPI display is supposed to look better than a low DPI display, but the scaling issues actually make it look worse.

          In addition, the experimental flags required to “fix” the scaling issues with apps can also break these apps.

          Discord window decorations missing: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/o24560/spotify_and_discord_missing_window/

          1Password not launching: https://1password.community/discussion/141663/i-cant-start-wayland-native-version-of-1password

          Spotify window decorations wrong: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/16xhm21/spotify_window_decorations_on_wayland/

          In summary, HiDPI displays have a long history of making your display look worse and limiting the apps you can use. Thinkpad or XPS with low DPI don’t require you to only use Ubuntu or Fedora or only KDE. Linux support on the Framework is held back by the poor choice of display.

          Thanks for coming to my ted talk. 🙏

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            Lol, bro, you’re literally describing the OS failing to handle scaling properly, not an issue with the screen.

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              Actually, it’s the desktop environment that doesn’t know how to handle scaling. It’s mostly a GNOME issue, I never had any issues on KDE.

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            Claims to describe the claimed issues with the framework display but instead literally outlines the issues with the chosen OS instead.

            Like… fine, be annoyed, but at least be honest. The framework display has no faults.

            Linux had issues with DPI.

            It’s still an issue, still legit, not it’s not a faulty display.

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            I’ve been using Fedora KDE on my framework 16 and haven’t really had any issues. Under Wayland, the default behavior is to scale x11 apps, which can result in a bit of blur. Telling x11 apps to scale themselves gets rid of the blur, but also doesn’t seem to scale them.

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            That’s not the problem with Framework or displays. Linux just sucks at even the simplest basics.

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              It sucks so much and is so unusable that Valve chose to use it for their Steam Deck!

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        Framework: let’s put a high resolution display in our laptop GNOME: oh shit I can’t handle more than 1080p correctly! Jg1i: Why would Framework do this?