• CMonster@discuss.online
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    24 hours ago

    I’m not here to debate which type of leftist I am with you. This is just a tangent that serves no purpose for our discussion.

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      24 hours ago

      Sure, then we circle back to how you suggested it isn’t worth engaging with “commies” rhetorically, on account of them being “commies.”

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        23 hours ago

        I did not suggest that. I stated that if you refuse to accept the reality of the situation then no one will engage with you regardless of which title you choose to give yourself. That’s why the dems lost lol

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            23 hours ago

            The dems lost because they refused to accept the reality (they ran a shit candidate with an uninspiring platform all the while not doing a primary). Stop trying to paint me as some fucking anticommunist. It all comes down to the fact that if you refuse to engage with this system you will never be able to enact meaningful change. If you want representation either put it there yourself or pick the candidate closest to your viewpoints while organizing. Both are possible.

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              23 hours ago

              You’re so close.

              If you only allow yourself to work within the system specifically designed to not change, you will never get change. The only way to get change is organizing.

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                23 hours ago

                Incorrect. I don’t know if you live in the US but its fairly clear to me that we can enact meaningful change from within. Look what trump is doing. Why couldn’t we have a leftist version? Be the change you want to see.

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                  23 hours ago

                  We can’t have a Leftist version of Trump because Trump is an agent of Capital and thus representing Capital’s interests. Do you think he’s some kind of force of nature outside the scope of the system set in place to protect itself?

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                    23 hours ago

                    Trump is not an agent of capital. Trump is an agent of his own ego. I’m old enough to remember when he was bankrupting the casinos in my home state. He is forcing the system to cannibalize itself in order to turn himself into some kind of king. It’s not really about the money to him. He is showing just how malleable the framework is even though it only benefits the mega rich who are currently guiding some of his less ego driven actions because they bought his presidency via social media and corporate news. Why would you have a problem with a person of the people in his position bending the framework back our way?

                    I just did a dab so I’m gonna log off here for now but I would enjoy continuing this discussion with you later.