the same rhetoric that’s been used for the last 5-6 elections at least
Nah, maybe a little bit for the last trump election where he dipped his toes into autocratic territory, now that he got support again (even House and Congress) he can go full autocratic.
Everyone that’s at least a little bit educated politically and economically shakes their head about Trump, and did so before the election too.
It’s not a rhetoric that was used before that much. Electing republicans was always a little bit correlated with stupidity but not like: Go full Trumpler/Hitler, full on conspiracy, “anti-establishment” (the opposite seems to be true, thinking about that there were never more billionaires in political power than ever before).
The stupidity for a lot of americans seems to be at an all time high too.
Nah I really don’t understand why people were omitting this election, just because they were in slight disagreement with the democrats (over things, where trump is orders of magnitudes worse)…
the biggest reason is usually because they (rightly) feel like the choice has little actual impact on their day-to-day life
Yeah and now take a close look at what Trump was “able” to do in just 4 months. Lets sum it up: it’s not a good outlook for the economy (and especially poor people) in the USA. And it does hurt globally too. A single vote may not have much impact, but it can prevent this shitty state the US is in currently (“if everyone thinks like that…”)
Blaming those voters without asking yourself why there were more of them this election is nothing more than political masturbation.
Ah common that’s bullshit, I mean I’m mostly blaming republican voters that were for the most part voting against their own interests… The system is absolutely flawed, but people should at least try to prevent the worst (which they seemingly didn’t).
And just a reminder that the democratic party does actually have members in its caucus that have a higher than 60% approval rating nationwide, but for some reason they chose not to run those candidates
Yeah there absolutely better candidates, and I really hope, that progressives like AOC gain much more power and the democrats are able to turn left. But then, there’s still the question if there’s an election again that is not a total shallow joke, so that democrats (or maybe even other parties) get a realistic chance for power again.
Seeing the downvotes here to something in my eyes obvious, really makes me want to block lemmy.ml. Are there really that much Trumpler-loving-Tankies around here?
Such a contradiction: Hypercapitalism fueled autocracy, the only thing (I think) tankies and MAGAs agree with is probably autocracy.
It’s not a rhetoric that was used before that much. Electing republicans was always a little bit correlated with stupidity but not like: Go full Trumpler/Hitler, full on conspiracy
You must not be old enough to remember the 2008 election, then. People were accusing Obama of being the literal antichrist, and was among the first to prominently feature conservative conspiracy theorists on national news (Don was calling in to talk shows to accuse Obama of being a Kenyan Muslim and demanding his birth certificate, then his long-form).
Maybe in hindsight it’s hard to make a comparisons, but every election since then has represented the same choice between ‘sane’ democrats and ‘crazy’ conservatives. You can only have so many of those before they start to feel like the norm.
You must not be old enough to remember the 2008 election, then. People were accusing Obama of being the literal antichrist
Oh I was old enough, I didn’t follow the election that time that closely, as IMO it wasn’t that important as the last 3 (and I wasn’t that political either)
Though something like the Project 2025 were just not existing that time, and while Trump maybe always a crazy person, that all of this is that socially acceptable (conspiracies, lies across all dimensions) is a concerning trend (towards fascism, as Hitler etc. used similar rhetoric).
Maybe in hindsight it’s hard to make a comparisons, but every election since then has represented the same choice between ‘sane’ democrats and ‘crazy’ conservatives.
Right, as I said, I don’t promote what the policy of the democrats is, I’m just concerned what the alternative looks like…
Nah, maybe a little bit for the last trump election where he dipped his toes into autocratic territory, now that he got support again (even House and Congress) he can go full autocratic. Everyone that’s at least a little bit educated politically and economically shakes their head about Trump, and did so before the election too. It’s not a rhetoric that was used before that much. Electing republicans was always a little bit correlated with stupidity but not like: Go full Trumpler/Hitler, full on conspiracy, “anti-establishment” (the opposite seems to be true, thinking about that there were never more billionaires in political power than ever before). The stupidity for a lot of americans seems to be at an all time high too.
Nah I really don’t understand why people were omitting this election, just because they were in slight disagreement with the democrats (over things, where trump is orders of magnitudes worse)…
Yeah and now take a close look at what Trump was “able” to do in just 4 months. Lets sum it up: it’s not a good outlook for the economy (and especially poor people) in the USA. And it does hurt globally too. A single vote may not have much impact, but it can prevent this shitty state the US is in currently (“if everyone thinks like that…”)
Ah common that’s bullshit, I mean I’m mostly blaming republican voters that were for the most part voting against their own interests… The system is absolutely flawed, but people should at least try to prevent the worst (which they seemingly didn’t).
Yeah there absolutely better candidates, and I really hope, that progressives like AOC gain much more power and the democrats are able to turn left. But then, there’s still the question if there’s an election again that is not a total shallow joke, so that democrats (or maybe even other parties) get a realistic chance for power again.
Seeing the downvotes here to something in my eyes obvious, really makes me want to block lemmy.ml. Are there really that much Trumpler-loving-Tankies around here? Such a contradiction: Hypercapitalism fueled autocracy, the only thing (I think) tankies and MAGAs agree with is probably autocracy.
You must not be old enough to remember the 2008 election, then. People were accusing Obama of being the literal antichrist, and was among the first to prominently feature conservative conspiracy theorists on national news (Don was calling in to talk shows to accuse Obama of being a Kenyan Muslim and demanding his birth certificate, then his long-form).
Maybe in hindsight it’s hard to make a comparisons, but every election since then has represented the same choice between ‘sane’ democrats and ‘crazy’ conservatives. You can only have so many of those before they start to feel like the norm.
Oh I was old enough, I didn’t follow the election that time that closely, as IMO it wasn’t that important as the last 3 (and I wasn’t that political either) Though something like the Project 2025 were just not existing that time, and while Trump maybe always a crazy person, that all of this is that socially acceptable (conspiracies, lies across all dimensions) is a concerning trend (towards fascism, as Hitler etc. used similar rhetoric).
Right, as I said, I don’t promote what the policy of the democrats is, I’m just concerned what the alternative looks like…
Lol, libs love rewriting history