• SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    9 months ago

    Joker was really close to being a great movie, but was ultimately too confused about what it wanted its message to be. Unless the message was just “I’m fed up, let’s get violent already”.

    • OpenStars@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      Ngl, I think that was the message. As in “this is my backstory”, end of story.

      What made it good was perhaps more in how it was done.

      Not every movie needs a moral of the story moment…

    • pjwestin@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      That’s the problem, it didn’t have a real message. It was aping Taxi Driver and King of Comedy, and it copied the aesthetics of those films very well, but it was all superficial. It’s a perfectly fine movie, but The Batman had deeper social commentary than Joker.

        • pjwestin@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          9 months ago

          Because it tried and failed to say something profound about mental illness while imitating one of the most celebrated directors in American cinema. Not sure why you’re pretending this was just another superhero blockbuster when it was clearly trying to be an Arthouse film