I 100% thought it would be Vel that dies on Ghorman instead of Cinta, with Mon telling Luthen that she’s worried about her cousin, and her running off after the driver. I wonder if we’ll find out what her accident was.
Happy for Bix finally getting her revenge. Hopefully it did feel like forever before he died.
The bug extraction felt way more tense than the Ghorman heist, even though you can tell from early which one will go wrong and which one will be successful.
There are too many people left to kill off in the next two arcs, excited to see how it will happen. I’m assuming that, out of the main “good” guys, only Mon, Bail, Cassian and Saw (and his cell, potentially minus Wilmon) are guaranteed to make it out of the series alive.
I think the next arc (tomorrow night) is going to heavily feature the Ghorman Massacre.
We know from Rebels and elsewhere that the Ghorman Massacre was a massive event that really kicked off the Rebellion as a public entity and force against the Empire. We know the Ghorman Massacre is what spurred Mon Mothma to out herself public as a leader of the Rebellion. After the Massacre she gives a big public speech that’s broadcast across the universe declaring the Rebellion to Restore the Republic and calling everyone to join. This is when she quits the Senate and goes Rebel full-time. We also know the Ghorman Massacre happens in 2 BBY, which is when the next arc takes place.
I believe both Vel and Luthen will die in the next arc. I think Vel’s death is what will spur Mon to quit the Senate and go public. It’ll be the thing that proves to Mon that trying to work behind the scenes and still play politics is a wasted effort. But I also think that Mon and Luthen will have a major split over how to deal with the Ghorman Massacre. I think somehow Luthen will die (not by Mon, maybe Syril will get some intelligence that leads Dedra to Luthen?) and Luthen’s death will demand someone step up to take his place at the head of the Rebellion. That’s when Mon will issue her speech.
If Vel dies, it’s probably going to be at the hands of Luthen. Everyone is just a soldier to him, and once she’s no longer useful and more of a liability, he would drop her. It would create a conflict for Mon, being very close to her cousin, and funding Luthen, to have it result in Vel getting killed.
Nah. I think Vel will die in the Ghorman Massacre.
I guess we’ll see, but I can’t imagine she’d want to ever work with them again because of what happened to Cinta, and probably the lack of heavy hitters like Andor and Vel is what allows the Ghorman Massacre to happen?
I dunno. Vel is all about the mission. If Luthen sends her to Ghorman again, I think she’ll go.
Seemed clear to me that the accident was a speeder crash to cover the assassination of Tay.
The only reason why I don’t think this is the case is that Cinta has no reason to hide it from Vel, since they saw each other right before she left with Tay. “Maybe I’ll tell you someday” implies to me that it’s a different incident.
So I have lots of thoughts on what did happen, but for a moment I want to ask about B2EMO.
Do you think we’ll see Bee again?
Bee definitely isn’t cut out for the rebellion. So maybe Andor is keeping him safe by leaving him behind, but it just seems odd.
So, the interrogation doctor thing…
Was that Luthen giving them a mission involving some catharis, or did Bix and Cassian go… {lowers KB’s Skeleton Crew shades}… rogue?
The light was flashing when we last see Cassian and Bix before it happens, it’s a mission.
Fair enough. Is it possible our guy Luthen is growing a conscience? Or at least some better person-management skills?
Think of Luthen like a really stern coach on a sports team. He knows Cassian and Bix are potentially two of his best players, but he also knows they can play at a higher level than they have been recently. The coach yells at and pushes them harder and harder, to the point where the players think the coach doesn’t like them. But then, come game time, he puts them in.
It was an important mission. We heard Paratgaz tell Loni that he (Partagaz) was being forced to give up the interrogator to the wider Empire because he’s been so successful. The Empire was about to implement his torture regime as standard policy. Loni passed the intel on to Luthen because that guy needed to get got. Luthen chose to give the mission to Cassian and Bix because he knew they could get the job done right, but also because he knew that it would be a better salve for Bix’s trauma than the drugs she was using.
Luthen needs Cassian, and Cassian needs Bix. “You want my blood? You help me figure this out.”
I’m a bit confused about the stuff with Saw Gerrera, the plan wasn’t to blowing up that tanker, but stealing the chemicals? What did the location of the attack have to do with the combinations of the attack, other than giving a reason for the traitor to get advanced knowledge of where the attack would be?
Presumably he was exposed to the toxic fumes as a kid and therefore is used to them and I guess that’s what causes his bad breathing in Rogue One? Or maybe something is going to go wrong in the next part that will cause his breathing issues?
Also totally expecting the next batch to have ISB get Syril into a situation where he’s killed, and used as an excuse for the empire coming with full force into Ghorman.
The chemicals is starship fuel. They were always planning to steal the fuel. Since the fuel is so dangerous and valuable, there are complicated lock systems on the valves with multiple different configurations to access them. The device Wil brought to Saw was a training device that allows you to learn all the various configurations the valve lock could have. But there are a LOT of different configurations. Saw’s group had a list of different targets they could hit to steal fuel, but each location had a different lock configuration. The group knew which configuration was in use at each location. So knowing the location tells them which specific configuration they’ll need to know to unlock the valve.
It’s a bit of a plot contrivance to allow Saw to out the traitor, which, in turn, helps endear Saw to Wil.
Wil is one of those guys who doesn’t really have a well-defined ideology beyond “Empire bad”. He doesn’t know or really care for the minutiae of tactics and strategy. He wants to fight, and it’s clear by the stuff he was saying and doing on Mina-Rau that he just wants to take action. Then he sees Saw actually doing stuff and giving him an opportunity to fight. It’s intoxicating to Wil. He’s taken in by the whole, “you have to be crazy to fight a rebellion, so let’s all be crazy AF,” bit that Saw leans into.
Saw’s character first showed up in Star Wars in The Clone Wars animated show. His planet, Onderon, was not part of the Republic, but had been occupied by the Separatists (droid army from the prequels). Saw and his sister were leaders in a resistance movement against the Droid Army on Onderon. The Republic sent Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Anakin’s apprentice Ahsoka to Onderon as military advisors and trainers for Saw’s group. We saw several episodes of Saw as a young man/late teenager learning to fight as a rebel and guerrilla fighter.
It was during this time on Onderon that he got captured and forced to work as essentially slave labor. This was the story he told in episode 6 of Andor S2. The labor he had to do involved moving crates of starship fuel (the same fuel they were stealing). It’s toxic, but in low enough doses it’s basically a drug. Saw got addicted to it as a kid, and we’re seeing him indulge in it when they’re stealing the fuel.
The writers are using his addiction to this drug as a literary metaphor for his addiction to being a political radical. He was politically radicalized at the same time he developed his addiction to the drug. And just like his pharmaceutical addiction, he’s also addicted to being a guerrilla fighter. I think we’ll see him diving deeper into both addictions over the rest of this show until we get to the point he was at in Rogue One, where he was literally carrying his addiction around in a canister to breathe it constantly. I believe this will parallel him taking actions which he might find beneficial or satisfying in the moment, but that ultimately harm the long-term goal of the overall Rebel movement. He’s indulging too deeply in both addictions by the time of Rogue One.
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