• ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    … it conditions people for 15 minute cities and other forms of tyranny

    Are you saying you think the idea of having all important services within 15 minutes is tyranny?

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        6 hours ago

        Literally nobody thinks 15 minute cities should mean you’re stuck in a 15 minute radius you dork

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            Where do you think this has been implemented? I’m curious, because you’re the first person I’ve come across who was this take, and it’s novel to me.

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              @silasmariner xford City Council have publicly stated that the 15-minute city concept does not involve travel restrictions and that traffic filters are not intended to confine people to their local area. If the “travel filters” are not intended to confine people to their local area, then what is their intent? Yea, to confine people.

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                Wow, hot take. Do you know what a traffic filter is? It’s just a restriction on through traffic, so that smaller roads aren’t used as part of a route by people going longer distances. It in no way restricts the overall distance that people can travel. In fact it’s less restrictive than some LTN implementations, since at least the road can still be traversed

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                  @silasmariner I know because I’ve heard it described by people who live there. That’s ok, go ahead and believe the WEF lies, let them enslave all of humanity. Good thing AI is becoming a thing because natural intelligence is sadly lacking.

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                    I, too, know people in Oxford, however none of them are insane, so none of them have described it that way 😅. If you’re sold on AI as well then, yeah, lol, I guess that tracks. Wanna buy some NFTs, bro? 🤣🤣

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              @Horse No I grew up in a time where we had relative freedom. If I wanted to go lay on the beach and enjoy the stars and the sound of surf at 2AM, I could so so, if I wanted to set off fireworks on the 4th of July I could so so, or pretty much any other time as long as I wasn’t creating a nuisance. I could drive downtown on any street. Now beaches are closed after dark, no more fireworks, kind of funny that we don’t have the freedom to celebrate our freedoms, but then the constitution may as well be used for toilet paper these days, downtown now half the streets are bus only and the other half are one-way. I don’t understand young peoples total lack of desire for freedom.

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        I was confused because it’s such a bad take… That’s not what 15 minute cities are about. That’s just the dumb conspiracy theories.

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        your intent is NOT clear.

        restricted in your ability to travel is totally normal and not tyranny. Drivers licences are smart, Pilot license make sense, dang are speed limits tyranny?

        15 minutes cities is just a concept that all or most of the typically important services citizens need to survive and thrive should be within a 15 minutes of where they live without REQUIRING a car. Modern car dependent culture is the tyranny if anything, and 15 minute cities idea is a response to that

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          @aeischeid For anyone capable of basic logic it would have been. Obviously having services readily available is not tyrannical, being unable to travel is, what other significant aspects of 15 minute cities are there? Do you really want your life controlled to this degree?

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            I have literally never seen the idea of a 15 minute city being restrictive anywhere other than the ravings of Alex Jones tier wingnuts. Everybody who actually pushes the concept just thinks you should have a grocery store, a doctor’s office, a library etc. near your house.

            Edit: and don’t get it twisted, nobody is saying you should be forced to relocate either, it’s a guideline for urban planning.