• bastion@feddit.nl
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    7 days ago

    I’m sure you’re definition is probably broad enough that that my concept might include some of the wars you’d discount. …but not all.

    in any case, even if I narrowed it down significantly, there’d be enough to disprove “communism is incompatible with war”.

    Rather, you could say “in theory, communism is incompatible with war, even though it isn’t a magical fix for the underlying tendencies and in some cases needs that drive war.”

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      7 days ago

      Wars happen for a number of reasons, and there should be a distinction between offensive and defensive wars.

      In theory, capitalism is incompatible with war as it is assumed to be a system of fair exchange. Many economists and philosophers followed Ayn Rand in promoting this idea. Obviously it is NOT such a system, and is instead a relentless amoral pursuit of profit and value extraction, and will cheerfully use war to obtain resources while simultaneously extracting value via defense industry stocks. It also uses war to crush any opposed ideologies, which is censorship in its most violent form.

      I am not familiar with how communism or socialism is compatible with war outside of Rand’s claim that socialism consumes resources leading to demand for more which must be taken from neighbors rather than using a system of free and fair exchange.

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        there should be a distinction between offensive and defensive wars.

        …that difference is entirely which side of the battle line you’re on…

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          6 days ago

          Who was the aggressor: Germany or Poland? Israel or Iran? Iraq or the US?

          Are you saying that there is no such thing as a right or wrong, good or bad side to a violent conflict?

          If so, prove it.

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          7 days ago

          yeah, that’s why I sidestepped that one. It’s an easy pathway into “no, you!”

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            Who was the aggressor: Germany or Poland? Israel or Iran? Iraq or the US?

            Are you saying that there is no such thing as a right or wrong, good or bad side to a violent conflict?

            If so, prove it.