FYI: in the EU we don’t play the “it was Biden vs it was Trump” game. We stop at “it was the US”. Besides marginal sympathy for some presidents or over the top ridiculous facts, US politics is not that visible or interesting here.
He says that because you weren’t paying as much tribute as he would like, which is why he ordered you to increase military spending and y’all went and did it, and then had Mark Rutte kiss his ass in appreciation. 😂
My dear, the NATO military spending has been ignored for long time. Now it was decided to reach it to replace the US that stopped being a reliable partner.
Maybe you missed the part where Trump decided to “maybe” withdraw the US from NATO, switched to a Mafia style for military protection, threatened to reduce military capacity in the EU (effectively eliminating some functions), and announced that he may invade Greenland. Not counting the MAGA doctrine to stop sending troops around the world (except maybe in Israel, ops!) and the leaks on Signal.
Sorry man, TACO may be a clown, but the EU took it seriously. We will replace the US military shield by 2030. Google it if you don’t believe it.
Maybe you missed the part where Trump decided to “maybe” withdraw the US from NATO
So, has the US withdrawn from NATO or is it a part of NATO?
Also, it would be nice if the US withdrew from NATO.
switched to a Mafia style for military protection
The rest of NATO has been a bunch of glorified provinces of the US since NATO’s inception.
threatened to reduce military capacity in the EU
That would be great, actually. NATO in general should both be prevented from invading elsewhere, and be forced to answer for its already-committed crimes.
We will replace the US military shield by 2030. Google it if you don’t believe it
Glorified USian provinces in Europe will not be going independent any time soon.
In seiner Stellungnahme gegenüber „t-online.de“ führte Reimer weiter aus, dass er Brosius-Gersdorf, deren Wahl vor einer Woche aufgrund mangelnder Unterstützung innerhalb der Unionsfraktion ausgesetzt worden war, als Aktivistin wahrnehme, „die über eine Neuinterpretation des Grundgesetzes ein deutsches ,Roe v. Wade‘ erreichen will“. Darin sehe er einen „Bruch mit der gesamten bisherigen Rechtsprechung des Bundesverfassungsgerichts zu Art. 2 Abs. 2 GG“. Jener Artikel besagt: „Jeder hat das Recht auf Leben und körperliche Unversehrtheit. Die Freiheit der Person ist unverletzlich. In diese Rechte darf nur auf Grund eines Gesetzes eingegriffen werden.“
Was there a serial or a movie about it? I can’t imagine how people in the EU would know about that stuff (unless interested in the matter for specific reasons)
Because its in the news everywhere?? Just google “deutsch roe v wade” and you’ll see so many newsarticles about it. Genuinely the minutiae of us politics, government shutdowns etc. get widespread coverage in tagesschau, spiegel, focus etc.
I doubt that US extortion will be reversed in any future DNC election victory. Only antagonism, and resulting colapse of US, which has yet to be manifested, will result in reversal.
You literally just said that it was because of Republicans that the EU soured on the US and now you’re telling me that in the EU you don’t look at which party is in charge but at the US as a whole. Do you not see how these statements are contradictory?
Ok? The significance of the clip I posted was not that it was Biden saying it but what he said he would do (and very likely did). Why did that prompt you say, “FYI: in the EU we don’t play the “it was Biden vs it was Trump” game. We stop at “it was the US?””
The reason I posted that clip was to establish the reason why I believe the US blew up the pipeline. Yes, it happens to be Biden in that clip, but you’re the one who started talking about distinguishing between Trump and Biden and then about not distinguishing between Trump and Biden. I’m just talking about the US.
The only thing I can think of is that you’re trying to preemptively shift the NordStream thing away from Biden and onto the US in general as a way of deflecting blame from Biden. But again, I just brought it up to establish US policy on NordStream, not specifically to bash Biden. If it’s not that, then I just straight up don’t understand you at all.
Why would I want to deflect blame from Biden? I’m telling you that I’m a European and I don’t care who’s in charge in the US or which president did what. Do you know or care about who is in charge in the EU?
Current US politics, that happens to be Trump’s, is hostile to us and it is alienating the European sympathies. There will be a little nuance in EU response to Trump’s tariff to damage red states more than blue states, but for most people it will be a big f-off to US as a whole.
About the Nordstream I don’t know what to believe because that sabotage was very convenient for every part, also within the EU, and I’d rather have no opinion than a wrong one.
Why would I want to deflect blame from Biden? I’m telling you that I’m a European and I don’t care who’s in charge in the US or which president did what.
Why did you feel the need to say that you don’t care about internal US politics when I didn’t say shit about internal US politics?
All I did was post a clip of the US president promising that he’ll stop NordStream if Russia invaded Ukraine, despite not having the legal authority to do so. Then, of course, Russia invaded Ukraine, and the NordStream pipeline mysteriously got stopped (could be anyone, really!)
because that sabotage was very convenient for every party
It certainly wasn’t convenient for Russia or Germany.
You mentioned that I may want to deflect the responsibility from Biden. -> I don’t have such interests.
I doubt that it would have been politically acceptable to switch to more expensive gas without blowing up the Nordstream. Whoever did it knew that it was essential to steer the EU against Russia.
FYI: in the EU we don’t play the “it was Biden vs it was Trump” game. We stop at “it was the US”. Besides marginal sympathy for some presidents or over the top ridiculous facts, US politics is not that visible or interesting here.
Its funny when Eurobros pretend they’re not US lackeys.
If that was the case, why does Trump feels sooooo cheated by Europeans?
He says that because you weren’t paying as much tribute as he would like, which is why he ordered you to increase military spending and y’all went and did it, and then had Mark Rutte kiss his ass in appreciation. 😂
My dear, the NATO military spending has been ignored for long time. Now it was decided to reach it to replace the US that stopped being a reliable partner.
you know that the US is in NATO, right? 😅 In fact, it’s the goddamn leader lmao.
natobros are still under the illusion its an alliance among sovereign nations on an equal footing that respect one another 😂😭
They played the scenario of Putin invading a micro-village somewhere in Latvia and wondered if NATO countries would risk WW3 over it.
The answer was negative, especially in regards of the American support.
Now the EU started a program to rearm itself and create its own nuclear shield.
Maybe you missed the part where Trump decided to “maybe” withdraw the US from NATO, switched to a Mafia style for military protection, threatened to reduce military capacity in the EU (effectively eliminating some functions), and announced that he may invade Greenland. Not counting the MAGA doctrine to stop sending troops around the world (except maybe in Israel, ops!) and the leaks on Signal.
Sorry man, TACO may be a clown, but the EU took it seriously. We will replace the US military shield by 2030. Google it if you don’t believe it.
Bye 👋
So, has the US withdrawn from NATO or is it a part of NATO?
Also, it would be nice if the US withdrew from NATO.
The rest of NATO has been a bunch of glorified provinces of the US since NATO’s inception.
That would be great, actually. NATO in general should both be prevented from invading elsewhere, and be forced to answer for its already-committed crimes.
Glorified USian provinces in Europe will not be going independent any time soon.
Because TACO told you so. Sure 😘
Bullshit. German politics is riddled with the same talking points as the US. Just today i read a german article talking about a “german roe v wade”
Of course, also in the EU there are far right groups like ECR and Patriots. It doesn’t mean that they rule though.
BTW, I struggle to imagine Germans discussing certain topics using American terms.
Isn’t Germany pro-genocide across the political spectrum?
Yes, except maybe some from Die Linke.
https://www.die-tagespost.de/politik/katholischer-rechtswissenschaftler-ergaenzte-brosius-gersdorfs-wikipedia-eintrag-um-passage-zum-lebensschutz-art-265468
Indeed maybe the readers of a catholic newspaper are obsessed enough with abortion to know the reference.
Everyone I know, knows what Roe v Wade is…
Was there a serial or a movie about it? I can’t imagine how people in the EU would know about that stuff (unless interested in the matter for specific reasons)
Because its in the news everywhere?? Just google “deutsch roe v wade” and you’ll see so many newsarticles about it. Genuinely the minutiae of us politics, government shutdowns etc. get widespread coverage in tagesschau, spiegel, focus etc.
That’s very surprising. Why would Germans be interested in US internal politics?
What?
I doubt that US extortion will be reversed in any future DNC election victory. Only antagonism, and resulting colapse of US, which has yet to be manifested, will result in reversal.
What what?
You literally just said that it was because of Republicans that the EU soured on the US and now you’re telling me that in the EU you don’t look at which party is in charge but at the US as a whole. Do you not see how these statements are contradictory?
There is no contradiction. The relationship is not worse because republicans are in charge but because of what they decided.
Ok? The significance of the clip I posted was not that it was Biden saying it but what he said he would do (and very likely did). Why did that prompt you say, “FYI: in the EU we don’t play the “it was Biden vs it was Trump” game. We stop at “it was the US?””
The reason I posted that clip was to establish the reason why I believe the US blew up the pipeline. Yes, it happens to be Biden in that clip, but you’re the one who started talking about distinguishing between Trump and Biden and then about not distinguishing between Trump and Biden. I’m just talking about the US.
The only thing I can think of is that you’re trying to preemptively shift the NordStream thing away from Biden and onto the US in general as a way of deflecting blame from Biden. But again, I just brought it up to establish US policy on NordStream, not specifically to bash Biden. If it’s not that, then I just straight up don’t understand you at all.
Why would I want to deflect blame from Biden? I’m telling you that I’m a European and I don’t care who’s in charge in the US or which president did what. Do you know or care about who is in charge in the EU?
Current US politics, that happens to be Trump’s, is hostile to us and it is alienating the European sympathies. There will be a little nuance in EU response to Trump’s tariff to damage red states more than blue states, but for most people it will be a big f-off to US as a whole.
About the Nordstream I don’t know what to believe because that sabotage was very convenient for every part, also within the EU, and I’d rather have no opinion than a wrong one.
Why did you feel the need to say that you don’t care about internal US politics when I didn’t say shit about internal US politics?
All I did was post a clip of the US president promising that he’ll stop NordStream if Russia invaded Ukraine, despite not having the legal authority to do so. Then, of course, Russia invaded Ukraine, and the NordStream pipeline mysteriously got stopped (could be anyone, really!)
It certainly wasn’t convenient for Russia or Germany.
You mentioned that I may want to deflect the responsibility from Biden. -> I don’t have such interests.
I doubt that it would have been politically acceptable to switch to more expensive gas without blowing up the Nordstream. Whoever did it knew that it was essential to steer the EU against Russia.