It’s not nonsense. It’s human nature. People are, in general, not different than their tribal ancestors from 300,000 years ago.
The forces that create the environment for a Hitler to come to power are different than the personality cult that develops after the person is in power.
Oh yeah, by all means, cite the peer reviewed biology papers showing that Great Man Theory is Evolutionary Biology, because, yes, “it’s evolutionary biology!” Is the number one catch phrase of people spouting baseless pseudo science.
1st link is about 4 different types of tribe structures
2nd is about leadership and its relation to tribes
3rd link literally runs counter to your initial point about trump cults being a result of human nature, it actually fucking argues that a society is shaped by material conditions but without using the term “material conditions”:
By the same logic, “Trump cultists”, as you refer to them, do not stray far from your average liberal because it’s also within the liberals’ human nature to be apathetic towards brown kids, women and unarmed men across the planet to explode into pieces, not because trump supporters and liberals that don’t like trump optics have a vested interest in maintaining status quo…
See how ridiculous that sounds?
Nobody fucking argues this way because human nature isn’t something that’s scientifically grounded, but rather it’s a metaphysical expression of our being weaponized by libs like you.
If you’re going to roleplay being an intellectual, at least do a better act of reading the stuff that you cite in relation to the points you make, otherwise @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml might bite 👻.
within the liberals’ human nature to be apathetic towards brown kids,
People aren’t robots made to exact specifications in a factory. There are both evolutionary and environmental factors that affect human behavior. Among a population there will be different genetics and different environments (which includes social factors).
The link you highlighted doesn’t refute my position that Tribalism was created through evolutionary pressure. Your highlighted text supports the claim.
Your premise that people are wonderful caring humans is false. The majority voted for Trump. Explain it to me.
Literally no one mentioned tribalism before this, please no Motte-and-Bailly arguments, I want to see the biology papers for the specific claim you made.
It’s not nonsense. It’s human nature. People are, in general, not different than their tribal ancestors from 300,000 years ago.
The forces that create the environment for a Hitler to come to power are different than the personality cult that develops after the person is in power.
When ever you see this, is guaranteed that whatever follows is baseless pseudoscience.
Ah yes, evolution. The well known pseudoscience.
Oh yeah, by all means, cite the peer reviewed biology papers showing that Great Man Theory is Evolutionary Biology, because, yes, “it’s evolutionary biology!” Is the number one catch phrase of people spouting baseless pseudo science.
You setup the strawman that I claimed it was Great man theory.
I specifically stated it wasn’t Great Man throry but you continue the strawman because you have no argument.
A cult leader isn’t a Great Man as described by Carlyle.
No, what I said is that it is Great Man Theory. And it is.
But I’m putting that all to the side, I want to see the sources for your scientific claims before anything else.
I specifically said the forces that result in a Hitler aren’t the same as the cult that developed after the fact.
You want me to prove a negative.
As to the evolutionary basis of tribalism, I guess you don’t know how to Google “evolutionary basis of tribalism” so here are some links:
https://sumananthromaterials.blogspot.com/2022/08/tribe-in-evolutionary-scheme-of-social.html?m=1
https://www.australasianleadershipinstitute.com/blog/Origins-of-leadership-from-tribal-chiefs-to-ancient-rulers.html
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/henrich/files/richerson_henrich_2012.pdf
1st link is about 4 different types of tribe structures
2nd is about leadership and its relation to tribes
3rd link literally runs counter to your initial point about trump cults being a result of human nature, it actually fucking argues that a society is shaped by material conditions but without using the term “material conditions”:
By the same logic, “Trump cultists”, as you refer to them, do not stray far from your average liberal because it’s also within the liberals’ human nature to be apathetic towards brown kids, women and unarmed men across the planet to explode into pieces, not because trump supporters and liberals that don’t like trump optics have a vested interest in maintaining status quo…
See how ridiculous that sounds?
Nobody fucking argues this way because human nature isn’t something that’s scientifically grounded, but rather it’s a metaphysical expression of our being weaponized by libs like you.
If you’re going to roleplay being an intellectual, at least do a better act of reading the stuff that you cite in relation to the points you make, otherwise @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml might bite 👻.
People aren’t robots made to exact specifications in a factory. There are both evolutionary and environmental factors that affect human behavior. Among a population there will be different genetics and different environments (which includes social factors).
The link you highlighted doesn’t refute my position that Tribalism was created through evolutionary pressure. Your highlighted text supports the claim.
Your premise that people are wonderful caring humans is false. The majority voted for Trump. Explain it to me.
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Literally no one mentioned tribalism before this, please no Motte-and-Bailly arguments, I want to see the biology papers for the specific claim you made.
I did. You wanted me to prove that great man theory was evolutionary Tribalism which I not only didn’t say but specifically refuted.
What the fuck is your problem? You aren’t happy being right in an argument.