Yeah, metal shears with a nice long handle to make cutting through hardened objects more easily.

And wouldn’t you know it but turpentine is an antiseptic and pain reliever…

That wasn’t his point and he doesn’t need to edit his comment because you misunderstood it.

You don’t engage with the facts you don’t like and only hold up the sources that prove your points. I pulled out facts about citizens self mutilating and you responded with an ad hominem claiming I was using a word that belonged to you rather than engage with the facts.
You blame others for what you are doing.

I have and others in here have been just pointing out other ways that China is not perfect but you ignore those and hold up the Harvard study you have as if it was a silver bullet to finally slay all the mean things people say about the country you apparently love, that won’t love you back.

I never claimed it’s a perfect utopia,

I’m arguing against people saying that china isn’t perfect

You are a hypocrite. We all are but you refuse to see it.

You do.

You go around saying anyone that disagrees with you, even on minor details, is a liberal and insisting that China is a fantastic Communist state. You are setting the bar on purity with no room for disagreement without with taking to insults and acting poorly.

The purity is that which you are insisting in others not even on the country. I have not even called you or anyone else in here a tankie once but you insist that I did so it okays you to “react” appropriately.

And how would a local business with a single employee be thinking they could better exploit themselves? Do you not see how you aren’t even cooperating in the conversation? You barge in to shout a lot and see the discourse as productive even if it’s just loud nonsense.

You don’t even know that I have a 10 year work visa in China and have spent a generous amount of time over there, you have no knowledge of my detainment for giving out a VPN nor do you know about my detainment in Singapore for the same thing. There is nuance and more to the world than just one thing such as workers or economics on broad scale, but it’s easier for you simplify for the sake of the fantasy you wish to have.

He specifically doesn’t want to hear anything that doesn’t confirm his world view and in being loud about it it’s getting him likes from his in-group which he thinks is all he needs and makes him superior.

You can see it in the way he responds to everyone with either the idea they fully agree with him or are deserving of indignation.

Wait till he finds out even his echo chamber doesn’t pass the purity test and God forbid he ever fail it himself.

Also I swear the amount of small business owners I know in Singapore who agree they live there for a better life is wild if you know anything about the authoritarian lean of Singapore. Grass is always greener and all that.

Which part?

Calling out a world leader economic, manufacturing state for their mistreatment of their citizens instead of holding up needless national pride for a country I don’t even live in? Cause you are a classic Nationalist.
Heck you might even be Nationalist Socialist at the rate you push specifics onto others that don’t match to alleviate your own desire of the world.

Which comments cause you keep just shouting an insult to feel right then high fiving yourself. We can all see you masturbating publicly to this sense of superiority I just am waiting for the post nut clarity to get you to even point out your logic.

Cause it wasn’t me. And I think you thought it was even though they made mention of Marxism and other points.

I’m confused cause it’s confusing. As if you are just trying to cover for something that didn’t quite work out and doesn’t quite make sense.

Cause you are still wrong. That’s kinda the whole point. You’d rather be wrong and feel right. It’s completely unproductive even to yourself.

You got to be willing to ask and listen to other points of view and respond to that. That’s having a conversation and getting more out of this world else wise it’s still just you vs everyone and everyone who thinks they are in the “in” group until they aren’t.

Wait did you just repeat the exact same response twice to 2 different people? You just keep that on copy and paste?

Or you never asked and you just kept pushing labels on me that aren’t correct. So, I kept pointing out they weren’t correct.

Edit: also you replied to not me.

Not that either.

Why is that I must belong to either of those ideologies? Is it so you can have pre conceived notions a our who I must be in the other side?
As I if can’t disagree on the minutia and still be in general in agreement?

It never ends and it’s never so simple.

He’s going around calling everyone that especially when it doesn’t fit because he just learned it’s an insult.

Still not a liberal.

And alright. I understand that other countries are more directly responsible for the economic woes of the world as that is the whole point of them and China is the manufacturer so their issues will be more worker treatment related than economic policy.

You move on to whatever to protect your point of view. You are on a conquest to be self righteous rather than right.

My point is don’t seek for other, seek for better. It’s not a golden paradise, just another reality that isn’t perfect, because it’s top busy being a reality.

Yeah not a liberal and what would you call predatory loans to Africa and export systems of raw goods, or the annexation of Tibet, or the threatened annexation of Taiwan, or the skirmishes in the late 80s for the “South China Sea” which mainly cover reefs that have now been over fished, or even Russian, Tajikistan and Vietnamese land as recently as 2009?

A word you think belonging to you doesn’t make it wrong to be used just because you don’t like it. It’s not even revolutionary just a Latin root word of ruling used for Napoleon using military to gain other counties support, and has been used in lots of ways by lots of people since.

There are people upset enough with Chinese imperialism and rule that they light themselves on fire in the neighboring country as a way to try and get attention and assistance.
That doesn’t come from nowhere even if it’s not a majority.

Multiple things can be true such as different governments can be each doing their own form of abuse. It doesn’t excuse one to admit to the other and there can be positives to all relationships.

Be upset with what you have and what’s around you but don’t use that to imagine a fantasy of greener grass on the other side of the fence. Do it to will a better existence around you.

The paddle whacking the guy in the face is the chefs kiss of this absurdist comic.

Just, wow.

Eh, we are all victims to delusion right? Can’t know what is a dream and what is reality until it’s being lived in the moment.

I think the mark of a true leftist is picking a dream that’s so big you know it couldn’t possibly come true so you could never mistake it for reality, but then work towards it anyways.

Well it does work until it doesn’t and the high imperialists get out of it can be quite high. A chunk of the oligarchic boomers feel like they have have everything they ever could have wanted even if their younger counterparts are starting to get greedy for more like addicts they are. And now we have fights between the rulers that want it to stay exactly as is and those that want more battling it out while we get nothing for those of us below that want better.

Lessons are learned and forgotten constantly in this world. The next empire along will also justify its existing as a good until it no longer can.

Let’s see what happens when Carthage falls and weapons are handed out asking the meek to pick sides to groups promising to own them better. I doubt that it will be a lesson we learn and pushed off to be learned again later.