Maxe

I’m using a 4a right now which I bought last year, refurbished. It’s a great phone and has a headphone jack. If you’re concerend about updates, install an alternative OS. If you want to degoogle that should be the path anyway.

9 years of evidence is a lot of time when it comes to signs of long term damage. Especially with a new technology

I never said that vapes are “just as harmful as cigaretres”. Altough most studies that suggest “less harmful” vapes are corporately sponsored by vape companies and tobacco companies that are slowly adopting vapes into their model.

Vapes as a tool to quit smoking are a nice tale, and probably work sometimes. But mostly vapes attracted teenagers and young adults and have started addicting a new generation of smokers/vapers after numbers have been falling these past few years.

A lot of comments here are saying that vaping is apprently healthier than smoking. But we don’t actually know that. All independent studies I know of say that we can’t tell the long term consequences to vaping lungs yet.

Everyone that says that vaping is healthier than smoking is just parotting the companies that sell vapes.

Edit: Some videos about that topic:

https://youtu.be/XuTQbOo3Y30

https://youtu.be/bbV6I8VRMG8

Puzzlers usually fall into that category. If that’s up your alley you should try the Talos Principle.