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  • Alright, I think I may have found my solution.

    • The crash only occurs on desktop environments that use x11, it does not occur on DEs that use Wayland.
    • The only DE that uses Wayland that Pop officially supports (that I can tell at least) is “Pop (on Wayland),” which is GNOME.
    • GNOME doesn’t look or feel familiar to me, Cinnamon does. I really like Cinnamon. But today I realized GNOME extensions can be used to make GNOME feel different, and are (at least so far) remarkably stable.
    • By installing the extension manager, and then adding the extensions “Dash to Panel” and “ArcMenu” and tweaking them I’ve been able to achieve the look and feel that I was going for with Cinnamon, on a DE that doesn’t crash on suspend. (Note for anyone else that tries this: I had to disable the “Cosmic Dock” and “Pop COSMIC” extensions so things would play nice with the new extensions.)

    So it’s a workaround. It’s essentially finding a way to make the “new” stuff feel like the old stuff, but as an added benefit, I get all the functionality that the new stuff offers.




  • Finally got around to this. I tried installing while logged in, then realized I should Ctrl+Alt+F2 (or something) and stop gdm before installing.

    I got an error message, there was an error while building kernel modules. Checking /var/log/nvidia-installer.log I think this is the culprit:

    warning: the compiler differs from the one used to build the kernel The kernel was built by: x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc-12 (Ubuntu 12.3.0-1ubuntu1~22.04) 12.3.0 You are using: cc (Ubuntu 11.4.0-1ubuntu1~22.04) 11.4.0

    Warning: Compiler version check failed:

    The major and minor number of the compiler used to compile the kernel:

    x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc-12 (Ubuntu 12.3.0-1ubuntu1~22.04) 12.3.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Ubuntu) 2.38

    does not match the compiler used here:

    cc (Ubuntu 11.4.0-1ubuntu1~22.04) 11.4.0 Copyright © 2021 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. It is recommended to set the CC environment variable to the compiler that was used to compile the kernel.

    To skip the test and silence this warning message, set the IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH environment variable to “1”. However, mixing compiler versions between the kernel and kernel modules can result in subtle bugs that are difficult to diagnose.

    So I’m using 11.4.0 instead of 12.3.0? Not sure what that number is. Both kernels are based on Ubuntu 22.04. I’m starting to think if I really want cinnamon I should use a distro that was made for cinnamon, like Mint.





  • Ok, so switching to Pop on Wayland works. I didn’t mention this in my original post, but I’ve been running Pop on Cinnamon. So I either need to get comfortable with Pop’s DE or figure out if this is a cinnamon issue.

    Previously I had an issue with fullscreen games having weird lag issues on Wayland. Though… testing that out now, that seems to no longer be an issue.

    After trying this for a few minutes, I really don’t like how slow the dock shows itself when I hover near the bottom of the screen, and i don’t like how the application bar adds visual noise to the top of the screen. To me, it makes more sense for the two bars to be united as one like in cinnamon. :/

    Out of curiosity, I wonder if the crash occurs when I’m in Pop x11, or if this is a cinnamon-specific bug.

    EDIT: The crash occurs on Pop’s default DE on X11, and cinnamon on X11, but not Pop on Wayland.


  • Oh man, so Pop!_OS has a “pop shop” where it officially supports 470 and 560. 550 isn’t on there so, while I could try it, I wouldn’t expect it to work.

    In “Software and Updates” I have options for the “NVIDIA driver metapackages” for 390, 470, and 560. 560 is currently selected. I also have the NVIDIA server driver metapackage for 535, so I could try that. It would be newer than 470 but not as current as 560.

    But since the chances this would fix it are already low (and 560 drivers fixed my other issues), I’m hesitant to try unless I exhaust every other option.