First sentence, last sentence, skip the rest.

Netsurf uses its own renderer.

Yes, there are three engines since 20 years

If, and only if, you skip NetSurf’s own one and Dillo’s own one and the numerous text-mode engines like GNU Emacs’s one, w3m et cetera, this number might be close to the whole truth. But I don’t see why you would do that.

Awesome, thank you. It was even installed on my system!

Maybe because it’s already old enough to not be “cool” anymore. Anyway, one of the reasons why I keep mentioning it is to reverse this noise.

Which is a less portable, less complete implementation of this one.

I am excited to see a new competitor

I wish more people would help NetSurf development instead of joining the Ladybird bandwagon. Ladybird is basically a less portable, less complete NetSurf.

But a browser engine is an absurdly huge piece of software and it will be a miracle if projects like Rust (or Ladybird, which I just learned it’s targeting its first alpha for… 2026!) get backed by big corporations and their pace gets quicker.

NetSurf already does everything that Ladybird promises - and it has done that for years. Just saying.

this is why there are only three engines out there

No.

I like that the developer actually supports systems without Docker. I wish that would be more common these days.

I wish someone would develop a tool that would allow me to remove the annoying foreground noise from podcasts ;-)

Honestly, what I use is not what I would recommend. ;-) My own setup follows these directions (TL;DR: OpenBSD, as much OOTB OpenBSD software as possible, and Dovecot.)

I am happy to recommend it to others.

If they ever support non-Docker systems again, I might be curious. Right now, I couldn’t even use that.

Note that you don’t know what the hosters know, store and/or sell about you.

I’m glad that you see my point that “other people hosting your data” is not really a good idea.

They host software for anyone to use, and capture all the data, usage patterns, etc, for themselves, to use for their benefit, and to use against you.

So I guess that we can agree that data stored on other people’s computers will not be safe. I honestly wonder why you think other people’s computers are safer if you know their names.

And you want to sit here and tell me they’re the answer?

I would be very grateful if you would only judge what I have written and not what you think I might have meant.

Are you just an apologist for FAANG, etc?

There is no reason to attack me personally, my friend.

Who’s paying you to post this disinformation?

Just in case I’m fundamentally misunderstanding your personal attack so I don’t report it to the moderators without cause: What is ‘disinformation’ about my pointing out that Google and Facebook host software for other people (even if they have their own motives)?

every community has somebody in it who does the self-hosting for the community

That’s what (e.g.) Google and Facebook do: Host software for the community.

You can’t extend, modify, or customize hosted software. Self hosting FOSS applications addresses all of those.

But:

rather than expect everyone to self-host, we should be working towards communities offering services to one another

How exactly are “communities offering services” a different thing than “hosted software”?

+1 for NewsBlur. Its filtering is just plain awesome.

Thank you, that helps me a lot. :-)