I see all over Lemmy, people really seem to hate hexbear, and I don’t get it. Can someone explain why most of Lemmy seems to absolutely hate them?

  • SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.de
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    8 months ago

    But Chanel of what they call left is much MUCH narrower than most people think of it.

    If you don’t want to get banned you better not only be communist but also authoritharian as can be, you dont only love Marx and lenin, but you better also love Stalin, modern day russia and north Korea.

    If you think of yourself as a Marxist communist, but don’t agree with Stalins methods, you’re a “libtard” to them and they won’t even argue with you but only make fun and downvote you (or if on their instance often ban you)

    Its the place tankies got to circlejerk, its no place for discussion or sharing/refining of left ideas.

    Either you love Stalin like a god or you are a libtard, thats what I have seen from hexbear and lemmygrad users (not that different of clientele from what I have seen)

    • TRexBear [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      8 months ago

      Either you love Stalin like a god or you are a libtard

      You’re reading memes as sincere honestly, which I guess is any easy mistake to make. You’re correct about which way we lean but when we’re being serious we’re far more nuanced about AES and socialist historical figures than you imply.

      Also, not that ‘authoritarianism’ is a real thing, but we do have a large number of anarchist users alongside our ML majority, and have specific rules in place to protect them against infighting.

      Also we’d never say “-tard”. That’s ableist language.

      • SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.de
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        8 months ago

        Okay maybe I’m mixing up lemmygrad and hexbear in my head a little bit to much, but alone the “we are very nuanced abut realsocialism, what you mean are just insincere memes, don’t take them seriously” doesn’t fit with the “we always argue in good faith, we are just sometimes not that polite” another hedbear user stated in this thread.

        I think for people being tankies you could just dismiss the dumb comments as jokes, as you see quite few of them. When being actually wholeheartedly of the opinion that Stalins way of running a country is bad for not only minorities but everyone else and also inhumane, you get a lot of hate.

        Sure you can say all the hate are jokes, all constructive discussion is for real, but that’s making it to easy in my opinion.

        The only discussions I head with hexbear people that were productive were the ones where they where on a different instance than their own, and arguing against multiple people, they sometimes made good arguments, but as soon as there where lots of them you would just get buzzwords and name calling along with down voting ton oblivion.

        As for the “we are a colorful left scene”, I kinda doubt that… Every time even I mentioned people like horkheimer or ardorno or said that the world isn’t automatically a paradise as soon as someone gets president who calls himself socialist, I got called liberal and right wing and so on.