• davel@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    If you’re saying authoritarianism can be explained by non-whiteness…

    I’m not saying that. I’m saying that “whiteness” as a construct is a tool of capitalism/imperialism/colonialism. And that the Global North similarly tends to attribute “authoritarianism” to whichever states are acting insufficiently subservient to their imperialist interests at any given moment. And I’m saying that these two constructs have a tendency to be aligned with each other, because they’re both tools of capitalism/imperialism/colonialism.

    But also saying that anyone opposing NATO become ipso facto non-white because it’s “an ever-shifting construct”…

    Whiteness is as old as European colonialism, and has been baked into capitalism—which began in Europe—from the start. Whiteness has been twisted into all sorts of nonsensical logic pretzels. See for example honorary Aryans honorary whites. It has no explanatory power because it is simply a tool of power. Even the Irish, Italian, and other Catholic European immigrants have suffered it within our own country. As Josep Borrell has more-or-less said, the imperial core is the “garden”, and the rest of the world is the “jungle.” Imperialism uses race—which again is made-up bullshit—as a tool to justify their imperialism.

    You’re saying “authoritarianism = non-whiteness = opposition to the NATO bloc”

    I’m not saying that, but the NATO bloc often seems to imply it. international-community-1international-community-2

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      8 months ago

      And I’m saying that these two constructs have a tendency to be aligned with each other

      It’s not empiricaly right tho. Hitler and Stalin are the first type-examples. In the modern era it’s Putin and Xi.

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        8 months ago

        I already covered the origins of this propagandistic Western conceptualization of “authoritarianism”/“totalitarianism” in another comment in this post. But I’ll add a 1955 CIA report that was unclassified in 2008.

        Even in Stalin’s time there was collective leadership. The Western idea of a dictator within the Communist setup is exaggerated. Misunderstandings on that subject are caused by lack of comprehension of the real nature and organization of the Communist power structure. Stalin, although holding wide powers, was merely the captain of a team and it seems obvious that Khrushchev will be the new captain.

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          8 months ago

          I already covered the origins of this propagandistic Western conceptualization of “authoritarianism”/“totalitarianism” in another comment in this post

          This is off topic, but I want to mention for the sake of other hexbears that I’m glad you linked to this other comment you made. It’s a good comment but no one on hexbear can see it or anything else in that reply chain. Since you were replying to someone from an instance not federated with us, it’s just not visible. A reminder that the exact same thread can look completely different depending on what instance you’re reading it from.

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          8 months ago

          Equivocating Stalin and Hitler is some crypto Nazi shit.

          It is standard in Westoid discourse, e.g. the Wikipedia page on “authoritarianism” probably does it idk didn’t read it.

          People who use words like “authoritarianism” equate the two.

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        8 months ago

        Only one of those four is white, and it’s a classic reactionary tactic to downplay him compared to the Georgian and the older Han Chinese example

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        8 months ago

        Joe Biden and the US military industrial complex are currently helping Isreal commit a genocide out in the open, and that’s your pick for 21st century Hitler? Tell me you don’t think Palestinans matter without using the words, jesus.