Do any of them know what the word “liberal” actually means?

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    The only time I ever see evidence of Anarcho types they are being literally as annoying as possible.

    Edit for clarity, it’s never “I started this charity/group/political campaign with signups/events/or public engagement.” Only ever “fuck everything, I can’t wait for society to fall apart such that the magic future can begin”

    Bro you gotta be constructive not destructive if you want to sway opinions

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      Anarchists are pretty active in their communities, with mutual aid and direct action being cornerstones of the ideology and whatnot. If you spent any time in activist spaces you’d know that

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        The point is they need to bring the nice side to public spaces, not be insular with the nice, and turn the mean to everything else.

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          I think what you’re describing is less of an anarchism problem and more of a “people in general” problem. I’m an anarchist and I’d like to think I conduct myself pretty well for the most part, even in political discussions. I won’t say I haven’t been an ass online or in person before but that’s not due to my ideology. I’m just an ass sometimes. Same as everyone else. I will concede that we can be a bit insular at times and that’s certainly a weak spot for many anarchists

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            I’ll level with you on that. Everyone is an ass sometimes for sure. I’ve been pretty facetious so far so I’ll try to be more legit in this comment, as you have been legit too.

            I’m of course discussing an anecdotal perspective. I totally get down with a lot of what leftists discuss, when they do so constructively.

            To clarify: much leftist discourse is about what’s wrong, and destruction of society (to build something better). Eventually it all smells of doomerism. I was anecdotally calling for leftists to talk about constructive things they are attempting, that “the rest of us” could see, and align with.

            I acknowledge the world is in a rough spot right now. I acknowledge liberals are not always right. I acknowledge many liberal policies need to go. But from the perspective of the observer… The skeptic… The dude just paying bills and living, liberals are trying to build things, and affect change. Leftists seem to just want to destroy.

            My hope would be that through constructive cooperation liberal “realistic” policy is brought closer to leftist idealistic goals.

            *Realistic in that the policy actually gets voted on and made into law

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      I returned because I noticed your edit. I was being a bit snide, mostly because the meme is assuming everyone who calls someone a lib is authoritarian-aligned. If you’d like to know about the positive work I do as an organizer, I’d be happy to share. However, to me those actions are just the right thing to do and not worth bringing up randomly.

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        That’s fair. Below I clarified as well, this is a meta.thread. of course no one is discussing their work here. Also my opinion is anecdotal. Of course there are leftists who work very hard to move the window, and help others.

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      …you said, being literally as annoying as possible and contributing nothing constructive

      …he said, fully cognizant of the hypocrisy, which is why he decided to contribute a snarky editorial comic

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          Bro you gotta be constructive not destructive if you want to sway opinions

          At least I admitted my hypocrisy and did something about it. You’re just doubling down on a lazy stereotype to avoid engaging with constructive criticism.

          To paraphrase your own claim, it wasn’t “I started this charity/group/political campaign with signups/events/or public engagement.” Only “fuck anarcho types always annoying me”

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            This is a thread about how folks act. So this is a “meta” politics thread.

            This isn’t the place I, or leftists would describe /do that. I’m describing other times and places where said behavior was observed.

            Critical thinking.