• bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 months ago

    says “please don’t debate here”

    immediately calls the subject of the meme sexist

    Somehow you expect people to do the thing you yourself won’t even do.

    Also, there is no rule that the memes can’t be attached to debates. I have seen all sorts of current events/pot stirring memes here. Were you guys outspoken then?

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      The meme is about a controversial topic which has lead to numerous debates lately where “both sides” are extremely sexist to the other. I made an statement, it wasn’t subject of debate (unlike the meme).

      there is no rule that the memes can’t be attached to debates

      Never said that, I actually enjoy a lot of debates born from memes, so that’s not the problem. I clearly said I didn’t see this specific topic appropriate because of the sexist (and sometimes political) nature of it. Debates are only cool when they aren’t meant to divide and create conflict-

      Were you guys outspoken then?

      -which you seem to try to encourage. Nice try, but I’m not changing my mind here, this post doesn’t seem appropriate to me in the slightest. People here expect “haHa [insert funny akward quote]”, not “let’s compare ewoks to fucking rapists”.

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        Debates are only cool when they aren’t meant to divide and create conflict-

        Do you know what debates are? What they are for? How they operate? A debate is always two opposing ideas, they are literally designed to divide and revolve around conflict. If you only like debates that unite and cause harmony then you don’t actually like debates, you like discussions.

        I clearly said I didn’t see this specific topic appropriate because of the sexist (and sometimes political) nature of it.

        A) Yes it’s a debate about sexism and rape culture, of course it’s going to involve sexism.

        B) Everything is politics. People who complain about things “getting too political” just don’t like the politics on display.

        We are literally in a meme community revolving around an allegory for the Vietnam war where the good guys are analogous to the Vietcong. If you think Star Wars is not a place for politics then you don’t understand Star Wars.

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          7 months ago

          I didn’t see their response, but I’m sure it was something in the vein of “if I don’t like it it’s politics and politics bad.”

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            It still shows up for me, I’ll post it below for reference.

            The meme is about a controversial topic which has lead to numerous debates lately where “both sides” are extremely sexist to the other. I made an statement, it wasn’t subject of debate (unlike the meme).

            there is no rule that the memes can’t be attached to debates

            Never said that, I actually enjoy a lot of debates born from memes, so that’s not the problem. I clearly said I didn’t see this specific topic appropriate because of the sexist (and sometimes political) nature of it. Debates are only cool when they aren’t meant to divide and create conflict-

            Were you guys outspoken then?

            -which you seem to try to encourage. Nice try, but I’m not changing my mind here, this post doesn’t seem appropriate to me in the slightest. People here expect “haHa [insert funny akward quote]”, not “let’s compare ewoks to fucking rapists”.

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              7 months ago

              It is baffling how difficult it is for some people to simply go “I wonder why they feel that way?” instead of making it their mission to prove the meme/women wrong before even hearing them out, all based on a snap judgment.

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                7 months ago

                It’s the Principal Skinner meme response.

                “Could I be wrong about the way men behave in society that makes women feel so uncomfortable? No, it’s the women who are wrong.”

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                  It’s honestly an inability to not take every single critique of men incredibly personally, like they have been singled out.

                  When I see the statistics of crimes perpetrated by men against women, it’s not like I feel like somebody said I did it.