I think that the first 20 to 30 years will be very difficult for humanity. There is a distinct reactionionary movement that is blocking or even reversing progress needed to fix various problems (including, but not limited to climate change, destruction of ecosystems, housing problems and the world population aging beyond sustainablitiy). It will get very messy.
After the boomer generation has died out as well as my own (GenX-er here), humanity can hopefully look forward again. As I age, I really think that it is our two generations that are blocking progress. As millennials and Gen Z ages, they will hopefully learn from us how not to do things.
Extremely pessimistic to the point that I have a planned out when the dumpster fire gets close enough to ruin what little peace I have.
Both. Barbarism then socialism, either voluntarily or become socialism is the only system that can reliably sustain humanity.
Optimistic. Even if we all die, consciousness can evolve again. Even if we end up tortured for all eternity by robots, after a few million years we’ll be godlike and able to transcend that reality. Those who would be able to create it recognize this fact, and so there’s a mechanism by which the most intelligent are most aware of the inescapability of karma.
Given the perfection of the information ecosystem in its most abstract form, I predict increased pleasure and joy and decreased betrayal and suffering as time goes on.
Might be right in the near term, but everything will be okay.
Even if we all die, consciousness can evolve again.
Yay! Time to re-evolve and make all the same mistakes again! Infinite suffering, forever!
I assume you mean in the long term, like looking centuries or more out. If the scope is different my answer might be different.
It’s a total unknown to me. The biggest question is where the Enlightenment came from after millennia of producing the same system over and over again, and if it’s here to stay. MAD and GAI are the other two big existential threats. Other problems can all be recovered from in the long arc of history. (Yes, even climate change)
Technology used to be a thing to be optimistic about. The past 10-15 years or so has been a bit of a let down with capitalism fucking everything up.
Realistic. The world will be fine, not so much for most of the lifeforms that currently populate it. Earth has gone through evolutionary resets before. The existence of deep sea hydrothermal vents with methane loving organisms means that Earth will most likely NOT become like Venus, even when all feedback loops run their course. The carbon released and washed into the oceans will feed the species that produce oxygen, just as it has before.
Humans have become their own asteroid.
My internal legal counsel has advised me not to discuss the topic with myself
Pretty pessimistic, short term (the next decade or two.)
I am optimistic about socialism and anarchism very long term (the next 100-1000 years,) maybe just because I try to remain hopeful on stuff like this.
Humanity has created some incredible things, we have so much potential to be a boon for the planet, for the animals, and for each other. But we must oust Capitalism, corporatism, statism, and fascism to even have a chance.
Very pessimistic. Besides the current problems like wars and Trump becoming the next president of the USA (which as a European citizen really scares me), climate change is going to fuck over human scociety big time in my life time. Well, it already is but still humanity as a whole is doing jack shit about it. Giant oil companies keep digging for new oil and gas, the best selling cars are unnecessarily huge SUV’s, planes are still being subsidized rather than trains, humanity keeps eating meat, plastic usage and production is barely going down.
The current problems the news is full about don’t really matter in the long run when we’re literally making our planet unliveable and humanity is clearly still denying it.
According to the GIEC (IPCC) report if nothing changes, and nothing is changing as you remarkably said, the fall of our society will start in 2040 because of food shortages due to the climate.
2000 fucking 40! It’s tomorrow. I am destroyed by this future and really don’t understand corporate and/or politicians.
I still have friends making babies and not think that their life will be miserable in less than 20 years.
I feel you. I want children but agreed with myself long ago that they will be adopted because I don’t want to bring children onto this dying planet.
My country (the Netherlands) is going to be majorly flooded within the next 100 years (but probably sooner) but the majority of buildings built to stop the housing crisis are still build under sea level in the major cities.
People think they’re not climate change deniers but 95% of them most definitely are.
Is this it? https://www.ipcc.ch/srccl/chapter/chapter-5/
I think that’s the one yes. Decreased food yield from 2040 to 2099 onwards.
Also, even if I’m not into that, an old fart like Nostradamus or something like that (I don’t remember his name) wrote at the time that humanity will be greatly reduced around the first part of the 21th century. And now scientific studies more or less agree with that.
I have hope that humanity will change, I have zero hope that the ones who can do things (industries, huge corporations, rich peoples, politicians) will do something.
Apparently it’s better to die seated on unused billions rather than having a living world for your kids.
There was four years of Trump and nothing particularly bad happened.
In fact, global instability has been markedly worse in the four years since
There was four years of Trump and nothing particularly bad happened.
He didn’t really have a plan for his first term. That’s why he only was able to do a few bad things. This time around there is a plan.
The plan just seems to be more standard American bullshit. Which would happen no matter who was president. Remember how genocide Joe was going to save democracy? Instead the creepy bastard murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
I wouldn’t classify Project 2025 as “more standard American bullshit”.
It’s basically a guide on how to turn the USA into a fully fascist country within one presidential term.
What’s the difference between fascism and full fascism? A distinction without a difference.
I put that in so people don’t come out of the woodwork to tell me that the US already have some fascist tendencies.
The US is already fully fascist.
Under Trump America withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal. I’d say that move did negatively affect today’s global stability.
There was four years of Trump and nothing particularly bad happened.
Except that time a million and a half people died and literally the whole country had to stay inside collecting unemployment and washing our groceries while all of his followers got super amped up and violent because they weren’t (always) being allowed to make things worse
And that little bonus surprise at the end and how a sizable portion of the country including some important judges hates elections and anyone who makes them happen now
I mean there’s more but those are good starters
middle
Pessimistic.
The more times I see people not fighting for the rights and benefits that they deserve, the more I am shying away in disappointment. We continually allow defeatism to cloud us to where it’s no wonder why governments, corporations and other filth have such a field day with us.
I’m just waiting for something, anything, to put all of us out of our misery.
I see the near future/current world as basically RoboCop but more gore and less funny. and also without RoboCop.
Optimistic. I am going to singlehandedly will the future I want info existence
Optimistic, because, why not?
Because capitalism.
