The Mastodon For Harris campaign has raised close to $500,000 within two weeks of being live. It is probably the largest attempt for political organizing on the Fediverse, and may provide a playbook for other efforts going forward.

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        The US is committing a genocide. Most people won’t bother going to the polls for a candidate that supports the genocide.

        Of the people that support the genocide, most of them are Trump supporters. This is basically what happened to get Trump elected the first term. Sanders wasn’t running, so people didn’t go out to vote.

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          she’s been pretty critical of netanyahu and it’s easy to imagine her taking a harder stance against bibi if there’s still no ceasefire by the time she takes office

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          While I agree that someone like Sanders would be a better candidate, it would require him (as an example) to have the full support of the Democratic party. And he certainly does not have that, as seen previously when he was running as a Democrat and the Democrats fought him harder than they’ve ever fought a Republican.

          Harris is the only realistic non-republican candidate on the table, and so far she’s doing way better than Biden did and would have done. Biden certainly would have lost this election, Harris has a decent chance of winning. A Democrat Sanders would have lost due to constant sabotage by the Democrats and the Democratic aligned media outlets. An independent Sanders would also have lost, and split the vote for a Republican win.

          At least that’s my 2 cents.

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            Yes, my point is that it seems that the Democratic party is trying to loose and put Trump in office again. That or they’re just completely unaware of history and too dumb to realize the consequences of their choices.

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              Wdym? Harris looks like she might win over Trump. And yes, the Democrats would prefer Trump over someone like Sanders who wants to change the country in a fundamental way to benefit the people instead of corporations and the rich - the two groups that both parties work for.

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                Most people in the US aren’t Democrats or Republicans. Most people in the US don’t vote because those parties don’t meet their needs.

                I’m saying that even more people who might have voted Democrat won’t vote for Harris and won’t vote for Trump. They just won’t vote at all.

                If we had an actual progressive that stood firmly opposed to the genocide, they would easily beat Trump. Harris will probably loose for nearly the same reason that Hilary lost to Trump.

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                  Most people in the US don’t vote because those parties don’t meet their needs.

                  Even if that’s true that doesn’t mean they all agree and would vote for the same candidate. In fact that seems very unlikely given how distributions usually look. And in a first past the post system people usually vote for the party that has the biggest chance of beating the party they dislike the most, not for the party they like the most, and over time that usually leaves the system with only two viable parties that a lot of people don’t like. But it doesn’t mean they all agree.

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      It’s a reference to an anecdote that Harris apparently uses frequently.

      That’s all I know, never cared enough to learn a politicians’ lore.

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      It was a blend of a bit of quirky humor followed by a more profound message that Kamala Harris attributes to her mother: “You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.”

  • CyberSyndicalist [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    The rhetoric of this fundraising was that it would encourage the Harris campaign to have an official presence on mastodon which would legitimize and spread awareness of the fediverse. This has not happened and as far as I can tell the Harris campaign has not even acknowledged that mastodon exists let alone make an account or instance.

    This reminds me of an event on reddit which paralleled the pathetic “If I give enough money maybe senpai will notice me” vibes. Back in 2013 some starcraft players got the idea that if they organized to buy enough pizzas from PapaJohn’s then it would convince the company to sponsor starcraft tournaments and push esports into the mainstream (esports were niche at this time and starcraft was the major esport).

    Here’s a mission-accomplished-1 mission-accomplished-2 post celebrating raising thousands of dollars for a company that materially opposed medicare for all (wasn’t kidding about the democrat parallels). What did they get out of this? a vague tweet about esports that didn’t even acknowledge the campaign. PapaJohns would go on to sponsor an esports tournament… in 2022 well after esports had become mainstream on it’s own and sponsorships like this were tailist rather than pioneering. For extra injury that PapaJohns tournament was for smashbros with the starcraft community that organized this cringe campaign by then long dead and buried.

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    I mean… everyone is free to spend their money on what they want pretty much, but the marginal benefit of these 500k on the Harris campaign is very low, while the same money would go a long way supporting Fediverse development and maintenance.

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      It’s incredible how little people spend on free software :(

      I used to have a dream of developing free software and launched a couple of big projects (thousands of github stars, millions of downloads) and no one fucking pays for anything no matter how easy you make it and how critical your software is to them.

      To give some perspective - some Youtubers earn same amount annually from Patreon than both Gnome and KDE yearly budgets combined (which is ~3M usd).

      I realized that the only way to fund something is to make people pay either through early releases, insider programs or something that forces the credit card form on them. That’s the only way.

    • Sean Tilley@lemmy.mlOPM
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      Regardless of how you feel about it, it’s still notable that people on the Fediverse managed to scrape $500k together. This is the first time something like that has ever happened on this network. In the world of big politics and presidential campaigns, it’s not much. However, within the scope of grassroots organizing, it’s substantial.

      I agree that I would love to see that funding go towards mutual aid, infra and project funding, and supporting people who work on different parts of the network.

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      The goal is not only to support the Harris campaign but also to raise the visibility of Mastodon including possibly an official Harris for President presence there. I believe the fundraiser has already convinced ACTBlue to include a share on Mastodon link.