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  • Eldritch@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    You might be reading too much into this. Now if you can link to that same user praising Marxist leninism or any of the countries still based on that ideology. Then you have a hypocrisy to critique. But in the absence of that. Those are valid critiques of both Western democracy and Marxist leninist governments. And it’s probably based on their lived experience in a western democracy that they are criticizing it. I’m sure you can find many in China who would have similar criticisms about their own system.

    And just to make sure it gets said. Anarchists have no more love for the Chinese Communist Party than you do. So if you think they’re honestly using Anarchist as an attack Vector of the west. They’re going to need all the luck they can get with it.

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      4 months ago

      Those are fair points, but I think it might be better to have a very healthy dose of doubt towards anybody who advocates a teardown of democratic systems of laws. Not the same user in question, but I’ve seen various slrpnk posts defending things from TikTok to Raw Milk.

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        4 months ago

        Are they truly Democratic though. Anarchism is an extreme form of democracy BTW. Not anti democratic. Coming at it from an American perspective, even many of our founding father’s figured by now we’d have majorly overhauled our governing system nearly 10 or more times. They knew their system was flawed. Instead institutional inertia has caused it to become progressively less democratic by many measures. And people turned the founders into infallible deities.

        I have less issue with those advocating to rework or abolish institutions. Than those that as a blanket say we can’t question or modify them. Criticism etc should be couched in actually making those institutions more democratic and equitable of course. Not like the economic liberals that like to pretend that they are Libertarians advocating for tax cut and end to regulations that reign in the avarice of Corporations And the wealthy.

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          4 months ago

          When a decision making system is torn down through violent means then for at least a breif moment might makes right, which is absolutely anti-democratic.

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            3 months ago

            That’s not what anarchism calls for. Violence has to do more with those clinging to power. Because as they say when you make peaceful change impossible you make violent change inevitable. So you should be good.

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              3 months ago

              I’m not saying the theory of Anarchism and AnarchoSocialism is violent

              I am saying self identifying Anarchists on this site have and will continue to express want to burn down state buildings.

              I am explicitly saying those very specific individuals cannot be trustes.