Errol Morris and Jacob Soboroff discuss their new film, “Separated,” which chronicles the Trump administration’s “Zero Tolerance” immigration policy, which separated more than 4,500 children from their parents between 2017 and 2019. 1,300 children are yet to be reunited due to incomplete information on their families, because “the idea was to avoid records,” says Morris.
I’d say the shining city on the hill should have made restoring the rule of law a higher priority, but that’s just my opinion.
It seems the GOP can make things plenty worse in a hell of a hurry, but when it comes to righting the wrongs, it’s all too hard. The Democrat inclination toward civility politics and the status quo over basics like protecting the rule of law and the democracy will be the death of us.
It seems the GOP can make things plenty worse in a hell of a hurry, but when it comes to righting the wrongs, it’s all too hard.
Funny thing that. It’s almost like being destructive is a lot easier than being constructive.
That’s weird because it’s certainly a lot easier and quicker to build an entire city than it is to raze one…oh wait, no, the opposite of what I just said there is obviously true.
You’re using the vaguest possible language and imagining you’re profound, then dismissing the example I gave because it disagrees with your narrative by point to burning villages as though that means anything?
I gave the more specific example of destroying Republican legislation, and either you’re too dishonest to acknowledge that, or too stupid to understand. Why be like this?
I’ll be more specific and point to 4 executive orders from Trump that Biden destroyed, and ask you to explain precisely what the fuck you think you’re talking about?
Preventing Online Censorship
Protecting American Monuments, Memorials, and Statues and Combating Recent Criminal Violence
Building and Rebuilding Monuments to American Heroes
Rebranding United States Foreign Assistance to Advance American Influence’
Try to refrain from smugly gesturing at vagueries - you look silly enough as is.
I gave the more specific example of destroying Republican legislation, and either you’re too dishonest to acknowledge that, or too stupid to understand. Why be like this?
Yes I’m too stupid. “Why be like this?” indeed.
How about instead of a weirdo list of things you’ve randomly assembled, we take the actual subject of this original post into consideration?
The reason they haven’t re-united the families is largely that there were no records and/or shitty records kept about who was separated from whom, so they don’t know who the children’s parents are.
Yet another example of how it’s easier to make a situation worse than it is to improve it. It’s much easier to separate families and bus the people in them around the country, and it’s harder to figure out whose 4-year-old some kid is.
A list of Trump’s executive orders that Biden rolled back is a weirdo list of random things?
That seems like a transparently stupid thing to say - I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, stand back and let you explain that one.
It can’t be that you think that because some things are easy to undo, all things are, and that because my examples don’t fit that narrative, you dismiss them in a fog of cognitive dissonance.
You came up with some stupid list of bull crap and want to discuss that instead of the actual topic because you’ve lost the argument.
You lost the argument in the general case: it is generally far easier to make something worse than improve upon it.
And you lost the argument in the specific case: it is more difficult to reunite children with their parents than separate families, and it is extremely more difficult to do so when you don’t know who to reunite them with.
Yes - it’s harder to reunite kids with their parents than it is to separate them - I’m not arguing that - I’m saying that not every bad thing the GOP does is an act of destruction - like the creation of the executive orders Biden destroyed, like the creation of the policies that led to the separation of those children from their parents. Destroying bad policy or bad EOs isn’t inherently harder than creating them - repairing the damage they do is the hard part, but you don’t get to do that until you fix the bad policy/EO. This is the part where the Democrats have made some progress, are world better than the GOP, but remain a disappointment.
You’re boiling down everything that the GOP does to destruction, and that simply isn’t the case as I’ve already demonstrated. As long as you insist on ramming those square pegs into such an over-simplistic round hole view of the world, discarding any clear, but inconvenient fact, you’ll fail to understand the world, and any conclusions you draw will continue to be utterly worthless.
Now I’ll stand aside and make room for you to stupidly/dishonestly pretend that destroying bad EOs (which is exactly as easy as creating them) is “bull crap”, and that I’ve said the GOP creating bad things is somehow good because you imagine creating things is inherently good, and only something the Democrats do.
Fuck me - I’m honestly ashamed to share a political tent with such a moron, but better you than the Nazis, I suppose.
I’d say the shining city on the hill should have made restoring the rule of law a higher priority, but that’s just my opinion.
It seems the GOP can make things plenty worse in a hell of a hurry, but when it comes to righting the wrongs, it’s all too hard. The Democrat inclination toward civility politics and the status quo over basics like protecting the rule of law and the democracy will be the death of us.
Funny thing that. It’s almost like being destructive is a lot easier than being constructive.
That’s weird because it’s certainly a lot easier and quicker to build an entire city than it is to raze one…oh wait, no, the opposite of what I just said there is obviously true.
You mean like destroying the GOP’s atrocious policies, right? No? Then you might need to explain yourself, friend.
Yeah, that’s it. Improvement is really just destroying destruction!
Wow, you really got me there. 😆
After the village has been burnt down, it’s easy to fix because you just burn the ruins!
You’re using the vaguest possible language and imagining you’re profound, then dismissing the example I gave because it disagrees with your narrative by point to burning villages as though that means anything?
I gave the more specific example of destroying Republican legislation, and either you’re too dishonest to acknowledge that, or too stupid to understand. Why be like this?
I’ll be more specific and point to 4 executive orders from Trump that Biden destroyed, and ask you to explain precisely what the fuck you think you’re talking about?
Preventing Online Censorship
Protecting American Monuments, Memorials, and Statues and Combating Recent Criminal Violence
Building and Rebuilding Monuments to American Heroes
Rebranding United States Foreign Assistance to Advance American Influence’
Try to refrain from smugly gesturing at vagueries - you look silly enough as is.
Yes I’m too stupid. “Why be like this?” indeed.
How about instead of a weirdo list of things you’ve randomly assembled, we take the actual subject of this original post into consideration?
The reason they haven’t re-united the families is largely that there were no records and/or shitty records kept about who was separated from whom, so they don’t know who the children’s parents are.
Yet another example of how it’s easier to make a situation worse than it is to improve it. It’s much easier to separate families and bus the people in them around the country, and it’s harder to figure out whose 4-year-old some kid is.
A list of Trump’s executive orders that Biden rolled back is a weirdo list of random things?
That seems like a transparently stupid thing to say - I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, stand back and let you explain that one.
It can’t be that you think that because some things are easy to undo, all things are, and that because my examples don’t fit that narrative, you dismiss them in a fog of cognitive dissonance.
You came up with some stupid list of bull crap and want to discuss that instead of the actual topic because you’ve lost the argument.
You lost the argument in the general case: it is generally far easier to make something worse than improve upon it.
And you lost the argument in the specific case: it is more difficult to reunite children with their parents than separate families, and it is extremely more difficult to do so when you don’t know who to reunite them with.
Yes - it’s harder to reunite kids with their parents than it is to separate them - I’m not arguing that - I’m saying that not every bad thing the GOP does is an act of destruction - like the creation of the executive orders Biden destroyed, like the creation of the policies that led to the separation of those children from their parents. Destroying bad policy or bad EOs isn’t inherently harder than creating them - repairing the damage they do is the hard part, but you don’t get to do that until you fix the bad policy/EO. This is the part where the Democrats have made some progress, are world better than the GOP, but remain a disappointment.
You’re boiling down everything that the GOP does to destruction, and that simply isn’t the case as I’ve already demonstrated. As long as you insist on ramming those square pegs into such an over-simplistic round hole view of the world, discarding any clear, but inconvenient fact, you’ll fail to understand the world, and any conclusions you draw will continue to be utterly worthless.
Now I’ll stand aside and make room for you to stupidly/dishonestly pretend that destroying bad EOs (which is exactly as easy as creating them) is “bull crap”, and that I’ve said the GOP creating bad things is somehow good because you imagine creating things is inherently good, and only something the Democrats do.
Fuck me - I’m honestly ashamed to share a political tent with such a moron, but better you than the Nazis, I suppose.