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I dislike how they write off the weight of a vehicle and focus on the height of the front end. The weight matters in preventing people from being hit in the first place not reducing deaths on impact. Reducing pedestrian deaths is good, I don’t think anyone would really disagree but reducing pedestrians hit by cars in general is significantly better. The video goes out of its way to protect the poor fragile and easily triggered emotional support vehicle buyer from feeling responsible.
Drivers licenses shouldn’t cover everything from a smart car to an RV.
Weight matters for sure, but he’s trying to take away the argument of “my F-150 weighs the same as that Tesla Model Y, so screw you liberal” by focussing on the fact that grill height has a way bigger impact than weight does.
Also F9 is a (very very good) motorcycle and mountain bike channel, so don’t expect them to be the most thorough video on trucks. But I’m glad he made the video because a lot of dirt and adventure bike riders have big ass trucks to haul them around
But if we just avoid those arguments instead of addressing them we concede the general understanding. A model Y might weight more than an F150 but it is also not a vehicle for hauling or towing like a truck. The gross vehicle weight of an F150 is 6100-7050lbs while a model Y is 5402-5712 making it in fact a lighter vehicle if you have these massive things to carry shit and not just empty.
Also, they shouldn’t be so heavy and wouldn’t be if not for the complete obsession with range anxiety.
That’s a bit disingenuous to my point. The weight of vehicles being discussed in a video that mentions the weight of vehicles is on topic and not some what-about-ism like you imply.
A bit, but also your point about gross weight for trucks is way off reality. They are largely used as commuter or family vehicles, and rarely if ever loaded to capacity.
The only time these trucks make sense is when they’re being used to haul 1/2+ tons of cargo or to tow 5000+pounds of trailer. That’s going to take a big heavy vehicle, but also requires care and responsibility when operating (and actually does require licensing over 26,000lbs gross combined or 10,000lb towed weight, having towed close to that amount, I think that should be lower BTW).
But all that aside the point that the video is making about simply requiring lower grille heights to save lives is a good one, even if we should also drastically reduce the number of these trucks on the road for all the other reasons.
I’m off the opinion that they should be heavily (no pun) taxed by weight, and insurance should accordingly go way up for covering the other people they endanger.
But it seems that morons are already willing to be broke to drive these things with how inefficient they already are.
@nilloc@Tak Not only heavier vehicles are responsible for more road deaths and injuries, they also cause a disproportionate amount of damage to public infrastructure (they ruin roads just by using them), and they usually pollute more (if they use fuel). But we all will keep subsidizing all these damages until they’re taxed appropriately.
I dislike how they write off the weight of a vehicle and focus on the height of the front end. The weight matters in preventing people from being hit in the first place not reducing deaths on impact. Reducing pedestrian deaths is good, I don’t think anyone would really disagree but reducing pedestrians hit by cars in general is significantly better. The video goes out of its way to protect the poor fragile and easily triggered emotional support vehicle buyer from feeling responsible.
Drivers licenses shouldn’t cover everything from a smart car to an RV.
Weight matters for sure, but he’s trying to take away the argument of “my F-150 weighs the same as that Tesla Model Y, so screw you liberal” by focussing on the fact that grill height has a way bigger impact than weight does.
Also F9 is a (very very good) motorcycle and mountain bike channel, so don’t expect them to be the most thorough video on trucks. But I’m glad he made the video because a lot of dirt and adventure bike riders have big ass trucks to haul them around
@DarKnight0 @Tak
Yep.
This video for more broad perspective.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BreadTube/comments/11k52kl/these_stupid_trucks_are_literally_killing_us/
But if we just avoid those arguments instead of addressing them we concede the general understanding. A model Y might weight more than an F150 but it is also not a vehicle for hauling or towing like a truck. The gross vehicle weight of an F150 is 6100-7050lbs while a model Y is 5402-5712 making it in fact a lighter vehicle if you have these massive things to carry shit and not just empty.
Also, they shouldn’t be so heavy and wouldn’t be if not for the complete obsession with range anxiety.
Frankly, I don’t see why the video doesn’t talk about trans rights, the war in Gaza, and the latest Bachelorette either.
Not every video has to cover everything
That’s a bit disingenuous to my point. The weight of vehicles being discussed in a video that mentions the weight of vehicles is on topic and not some what-about-ism like you imply.
A bit, but also your point about gross weight for trucks is way off reality. They are largely used as commuter or family vehicles, and rarely if ever loaded to capacity.
The only time these trucks make sense is when they’re being used to haul 1/2+ tons of cargo or to tow 5000+pounds of trailer. That’s going to take a big heavy vehicle, but also requires care and responsibility when operating (and actually does require licensing over 26,000lbs gross combined or 10,000lb towed weight, having towed close to that amount, I think that should be lower BTW).
But all that aside the point that the video is making about simply requiring lower grille heights to save lives is a good one, even if we should also drastically reduce the number of these trucks on the road for all the other reasons.
If you buy a vehicle that big and inefficient as a commuter family vehicle it deserves to be banned.
I’m off the opinion that they should be heavily (no pun) taxed by weight, and insurance should accordingly go way up for covering the other people they endanger.
But it seems that morons are already willing to be broke to drive these things with how inefficient they already are.
@nilloc @Tak Not only heavier vehicles are responsible for more road deaths and injuries, they also cause a disproportionate amount of damage to public infrastructure (they ruin roads just by using them), and they usually pollute more (if they use fuel). But we all will keep subsidizing all these damages until they’re taxed appropriately.
If they’re affordable then they’re not taxed enough.
Don’t worry, the smart car company solved this. They discontinued the city car and replaced it with a 2 ton SUV /s