As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

Edit 2: This blew up, it’s a little overwhelming right now but I do intent on replying to everybody that took the time to comment. Just need to get in the right headspace.

  • diegeticalt (any)@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Supporting someone currently committing genocide is an explicitly pro genocide stance.

    I pray that you are your family are someday accorded the same mercy as you have for Gazans.

    • ZephrC@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      I’m sure if Trump wins it will be of great comfort to the millions more Palestinians dying in the genocide that their deaths will be useful to your smug sense of superiority.

      • TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        Having a hard line of support for genocide should not be a high bar to clear. Look at yourself in the mirtor and say, “I vote for genociders”.

        • ZephrC@lemm.ee
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          2 months ago

          See, the difference between me and you is that I care about the people who are still alive, not just the ones who are dead. I’m not okay with letting millions of innocent people die just so I don’t have to “support genocide”. I’m sure your conscience is more important than their lives though.

          • basmati@lemmus.orgEnglish
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            2 months ago

            You are, in fact, completely okay with letting millions of innocent people die. I’m sorry you’re in denial.

            • ZephrC@lemm.ee
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              2 months ago

              If you think your inaction will result in saving the life of a single person you are completely disconnected from reality. I’m sorry you’re in denial.

              • basmati@lemmus.orgEnglish
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                2 months ago

                Who’s inaction? I’m taking action as are millions. Voting for their genocide is not an action that saves lives.

                • ZephrC@lemm.ee
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                  2 months ago

                  Funny how many people on Lemmy totally claim they’re totally taking action without ever having a single one of them actually saying what that action might be. I’m sure you’re totally doing lots and not just calling people who disagree with you names on an obscure website though.

                  • basmati@lemmus.orgEnglish
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                    2 months ago

                    Protesting, mutual aid networks, volunteering for charities aiding the Palestinians. I’ve helped raise two million for unrwa, before Israel and the US started slaughtering them.

                    Voting for genocide does not help the victims of genocide, current or future.

          • TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
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            2 months ago

            See, the difference between me and you is that I care about the people who are still alive, not just the ones who are dead.

            It takes a very special relationship with the truth to read what I said and think, “wow that person only cares about dead people”.

        • ZephrC@lemm.ee
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          2 months ago

          Just because it sucks, doesn’t mean it isn’t true. The simple fact of the matter is that the statements “The Democrats are supporting a genocidal regime in Israel.” and “If Trump becomes president Netanyahu will destroy Rafah and expand the violence into the West Bank.” are not mutually exclusive statements. Taking a simple quick action to prevent one does not stop me from fighting the other. In fact, doing nothing to stop the worse case is supporting genocide. There will be more genocide if we all do nothing, and I have never seen any leftist actually suggest taking any action here on Lemmy. It’s never about doing anything. It’s always about what not to do. If that’s all you’ve got, then you’ve already failed.