I genuinely do not know who the bad guys are. S lot of my leftist friends are against Israel, but from what I know Israel was attacked and is responding and trying to get their hostages back.

Enlighten me. Am I wrong? Why am I wrong?

And dumb it down for me, because apparently I’m an idiot.

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    Don’t forget that Israel’s government also has explicitly said it wants to ethnically cleanse and genocide the Palestinians, on multiple occassions. It also isn’t democratic, considering there quite literally is a case of apartheid state.

    I’m happy they are a “democracy”, but they need to actually live up to the word instead of the former victim becoming the perpetrator themselves.

    I doubt most Palestinians actually support the terror attack. If they do, they probably want revenge for the Nakba in 1948, in where Israel has systematically expulsed and cleansed Palestinians from their native soil.

    Not that it solves anything, but it’s hard to feel sympathy and anger to both, when it is overall a tragedy that only has one true solution:

    Both sides living in peace, equal among kin, with no animosity, with no fascist Israeli government, with no calls to genocide from either side.

    There certainly is a good guy and it’s called the citizens who just don’t want their governments to be shit, and to cooperate instead. The citizens who want to return to their country. The citizens that don’t settle. The citizens that want loved ones back, but don’t call for murder. Those are your good guys: normal people, who do not contribute to hatred.

    I think there certainly is a solution. The question is whether the US actually has the balls to put multiple warships near the fascist Israel government and Hamas’ repression and credibly threaten both sides (with actual consequences following if neither listens), unless if the former retreats from all settlements and actually contributes to cooperation with the right to return and full citizenship, and the latter releases the prisoners alive and well, and agrees to cooperate as well.

    This, all while guaranteeing the right of queers to be enshrined, the seculars to actually have secular marriages, the religious to cooperate and build an interfaith communion.

    Hatred needs to be exterminated. If fascists and dictatorships do not listen (they never do), they need to be fought on all fronts.

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      If they do, they probably want revenge for the Nakba in 1948, in where Israel has systematically expulsed and cleansed Palestinians from their native soil.

      The Nakba was really bad and heavily shapes modern Palestinian consciousness, but nobody is seeking revenge for the Nakba itself anymore. It’s more about retaliating against much more recent and current offenses, mainly the Gaza blockade and settlements, resisting Israeli occupation and freeing Palestinian detainees.