In the past, laminated glass was usually installed in the windshield, with side and rear windows being tempered only.

The difference is that tempered glass is per-stressed so that when it cracks, it shatters into many tiny and dull pieces. Laminated is the same thing, but with layers of plastic sandwiched with layers of tempered glass. Laminated glass will still shatter, but will be held together by the plastic layers.

In an emergency, small improvised, or purpose built tools meant to shatter tempered glass will be useless if the glass is laminated.

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      Yeah this is a little nutty seeing people with axes to grind.

      An old lady drives her 2005 car through a restaurant entrance and people blame the driver and say things like “driving tests should be mandatory every X years.” A woman in a Tesla launches her car into a lake and people jump to the drivers defense, make excuses as to why the driver isn’t responsible, and want to complain about whatever bullshit the CEO tweeted out in the last week.

      It’s almost comical to witness.

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        she made a mistake. good design could have prevented her crash, and less negligent design should have let her live. absolute worst case scenario, it should have been an expensive mistake, but not a fatal one.

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          If you make a system idiot proof, nature will always come up with a better idiot

          We live in an age of subway wrappers telling you not to eat them, and microwaves including warnings to not use them to warm up pet dogs and cats. Because nature keeps improving on Communi Idiota

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      Because insufferable Tesla fanbois have for literally fucking years told us that touchscreen controls are better.

      No they aren’t you dumb fucks. When you cant feel reverse vs feeling drive, people will get confused. And when you get confused on a 3 ton 600horsepower vehicle, people fucking die.

      Go shove the shitty defense of touchscreen controls up all your collective asses. Tesla fanbois are insufferable.

      Anyway, human computer interaction folks (HCI) have been talking about these issues for literally a decade. Tesla vehicles are prone to sudden unintended acceleration. Tons of people have gotten locked inside a Tesla unable to escape. Etc. Etc. Tons of terrible UI issues and human control issues. It’s well known at this point.

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        Anyway, human computer interaction folks (HCI) have been talking about these issues for literally a decade. Tesla vehicles are prone to sudden unintended acceleration. Tons of people have gotten locked inside a Tesla unable to escape. Etc. Etc. Tons of terrible UI issues and human control issues. It’s well known at this point.

        These folks just wanna fanboy/girl over being scammed by their favorite billionaire for the lol memes.

        The main problem is that all these companies have no experience with ISO26262 or Functional Safety for Road Vehicles. Replace “Tesla” with “BYD” and look at the number of news headlines regarding exploding cars in China.

        Only benefit that comes from cars coming from the big 3 is that there’s at least a few years of experience behind the design (even if its a bad one) so that it at least it doesn’t blow up, or lock you in when its on fire.

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          Right here sir, where all the dead people are from obvious safety glitches.

          Tesla cars can’t even reliably open their doors when they catch on fire or sink into a lake. Electronic locks, electronic touchscreen shifter, electronic death traps.

          You can’t even turn on the windshield wiper without dumb electronics getting in the way of stupid Tesla’s.

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        Tesla vehicles are prone to sudden unintended acceleration.

        Wait, has that ever been confirmed? I mean of course Tesla would deny it, but I’d be quicker to believe user error than a design flaw (but I wouldn’t rule it out either)

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            Still not convinced …

            For most cases (all cars) inspectors and manufacturers have blamed user error - thinking you’re pressing the break but are on the wrong pedal so you press harder. That’s muscle memory, we can understand that happening

            Tesla has logging to tell what was being pressed and how, so a malfunction would also have to mislead that sensor Seems unlikely

            What Tesla (BEV) has uniquely over other (ICE) cars is ungodly amounts of torque. When I tried seeing a little of what my car can do, in relatively safe conditions … even being prepared for it, I was pressed back in my seat so far that it was tough to hold on.

            My speculation is user error, combined with a car that has way more power than most of us are used to. You could end up doing the same in a Ferrari, if you had a lot more money