What are your thoughts on Generative Machine Learning models? Do you like them? Why? What future do you see for this technology?
What about non-generative uses for these neural networks? Do you know of any field that could use such pattern recognition technology?
I want to get a feel for what are the general thoughts of Lemmy Users on this technology.
Kinda cool how much auto-correct and noise filters can do… kinda uncool to use the same as leverage against humanity.
I think AI will end truth as a concept
If it does then we also lose the ability to even say that that’s what it’s done. And if that’s the case then has it really done it? /ponders uselessly
As a tool for reducing our societal need to do hard labor I think it is incredibly useful. As it is generally used in America I think it is an egregious from of creative theft that threatens to replace a large range of the working class in our nation.
Mixed feelings. I decided not to study graphic design because I saw the writing on the wall, so I’m a little salty. I think they can be really useful for cutting back on menial tasks though. For example, I don’t see why people bitch about someone using AI for their cover letter as long as they proofread it afterwards. That seems like the kind of thing you’d want to automate, unlike art and human interaction.
I think right now I just kind of hate AI because of capitalism. Tech companies are trying to make it sound like they can do so many things they really can’t, and people are falling for it.
Writing a cover letter is a good exercise in self reflection
True, I just assumed that reflection was required in order to give the AI the prompt, and the AI was mainly used to format it correctly. I might be talking out of my ass here since I haven’t used it extensively.
Let me know when we have some real AI to evaluate rather than products labeled as a marketing ploy. Anyone remember when everything had to be called “3D” because it was cool? I missed my chance to get 3D stereo cables.
The pushback against genAI’s mostly reactionary moral panic with (stupid|misinformation|truth stretching) talking points , such’s :
- AI art being inherently “plagiarising”
- AI using as much energy’s crypto , the AI = crypto mindset in general
- AI art “having no soul” , .*
- “Peops use AI to do «BAD THING» , therefour AI ISZ THE DEVILLLL ‼‼‼”
- .*
Any legitimate criticisms sadly drowned out by this bollocks , can’t trust anti AI peops to actually criticise the tech . Am bitter
AI art being inherently “plagiarising”
Yes it is, simply due to the nature of the “training”/“learning” process, which is learning in name alone. If you know how this mathematical process works you know the machine’s definition of success is how well it’s output matches the data it was trained with. The machine is effectively trying to encrypt it’s data base on it’s nodes. I would recommend you inform yourself on how the “training” process actually works, down to the mathematical level.
AI using as much energy’s crypto , the AI = crypto mindset in general
AI is often push by the same people who pushed NFTs and whatnot, so this is somewhat understandable. And yes, AI consumes a lot of energy and water. Maybe not as much as crypto, but still, not something we can afford to use for mindless entertainment in our current climate catastrophe.
AI art “having no soul”
Yup. AI “art” works by finding pixel patterns that repeat with a given token. Due to it’s nature, it can only repeat patterns which it identified in it’s training data. Now, we have all heard of the saying “An image in worth a thousand words”. This saying is quite the understatement. For one to describe an image down to the last detail, such detail that someone who never saw the image could perfectly replicate it, one how need more than a thousand words, as evidenced by computer image files, since these are basically what was just described. The training data never has enough detail to describe the whole image in such detail and therefore it is incapable of doing anything too specific.
Art is very personal, the more of yourself you put into a piece, the more unique and “soulful” it will be. The more of the work you delegate to the machine, the less of yourself you can put into the piece, and if 100% of the image generation was made by the machine, which is in turn simply calculating an average image that matches the prompt, then nothing of you is in the piece. It is nothing more than the maths that created it.
Simple text descriptions do not give the human meaningful control over the final piece, and that is why pretty much any artist worth their tittle is not using it.
Also, the irony that we are automating the arts, something which people enjoy doing, instead of the soul degrading jobs nobody wants to do, should not be lost on us.
“Peops use AI to do «BAD THING» , therefour AI ISZ THE DEVILLLL ‼‼‼”
It is true that AI is being used in horrible was that will take sometime to adapt, it is simply that the negative usages of AI have more visibility than the positive usages. As a matter of fact, this node network technology was already in use in many fields before the Chat-GPT induced AI hype train.
can’t trust anti AI peops to actually criticise the tech
Correct. It is well known that those who stem to financially benefit from the success of AI are more than willing to lie about it’s true capabilities.
Pretty cool technology ruined by greed. If we don’t get this under control (which we won’t probably) we’re in for a pretty interesting age of the Internet, maybe even the last one.
Most GenAI was trained on material they had no right to train on (including plenty of mine). So I’m doing my small part, and serving known AI agents an infinite maze of garbage. They can fuck right off.
Now, if we’re talking about real AI, that isn’t just a server park of disguised markov chains in a trenchcoat, neural networks that weren’t trained on stolen data, that’s a whole different story.
I like to think somewhere researchers are working on actual AI and the AI has already decided that it doesn’t want to read bullshit on the internet
It’s a glorified crawler that is incredibly inefficient. I don’t use it because I’ve been programmed to be picky about my sources and LLMs haven’t.
I kinda wish we had one on lemmy that summarized articles since we dont have the userbase of reddit (theres always some dude summarizing the facts without the fluff in the comments) AI is good at summaries.
I straight up dont like reading most of these articles, its often written in a way that makes you stay on the page longer
I think it’s fine if used in moderation. I use mine for doing the mindless day-to-day stuff like writing cover letters or business-type emails. I don’t use it for anything creative though, just to free myself up to do that stuff.
I also suck at coding so I use it to write little scripts and stuff. Or at least to do the framework and then I finish them off.
Generative ai is just an advanced chat bot, a toy that uses too much power to be efficient.
My personal experience is that any output has to be double checked and edited. It would be better to just do whatever I asked it to do from the beginning. When it can fact check itself and cite sources, then it might become useful.
An ai that can comb through vast amounts of data and give an output of specific data relevant to the question presented than a generative ai might be useful. But it can’t analyze data very well at the current moment. It hallucinates too much.
As of now its overblown. Still a useful tool tho. Ive been using deepseek to help with resume formatting. Just dont let them do any actual writing for you or theyll make shit up. But for formatting theyre great. Feed it what you wrote, and ask to to clean it up without changing the text. Re read it to make sure it didnt change stuff anyway. Its also great at things like troubleshooting issues. Way better then just googling it. You can still run into hallucinations tho so be careful. I also reccomend avoiding any western AI and only use chinese AI. Its better and safer.
I love it for what I use it for which is research, speeding up scripting and code writing, resume building, paraphrashing stupidly long news articles, teaching me Spanish and Japanese, bypassing the bullshit that are what passes as search engines these days, and talking my anxiety down. They cut through the noise and boost my productivity.
I think that they’re neat, they’re development is fascinating to me, and that they have their utility. But I am sick of executive and marketing types sloppily cramming them into every corner of every service just so they can tell their shareholders that it’s “powered by AI”. So far, I’ll use a page or app dedicated to chatting with the llm, or I’ve also found that GitHub copilot in vscode is pretty nifty sometimes for things like quickly generating docs that I can then just proofread and edit. But in most other applications and websites I don’t use them at all or I’m forced to and the experience is worse. Recently, I’ve been having to work in Microsoft’s power platform a bit for a client (help me). Almost every page in the entire platform has an AI chatbot on the side that’s supposed to do some of the work around you. Don’t use it. It fucks up your shit. Ask it to do something, it will change your flow or whatever you’re working with with the wrong syntax that won’t even compile 9/10 times, with no opportunity to undo, and the remaining 1/10 is logic errors. Ask it questions about the platform, not only will it not know anything, it will literally accuse you of not speaking English.
TL;DR I think they’re neat and useful IF they’re used responsibility and implemented well. Otherwise they are a nuisance excuse to use a buzzword at best or dangerous at worst
