• Vincent@feddit.nl
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    Hmm, in Ayn Rand’s fantasy worlds, the engineers would be the ones who own the machines and thus reap the benefits. So I think the proper criticism there would be that that’s not how it works in the real world, and thus is not a good basis for one’s philosophy.

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      If only people would stop pretending those fantasy words had any resemblance to reality.

      Honestly, society would be much better if marxists, anarchists, and etc just converted into delusional Star Wars fans or something like that.

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        Some parts of the world went 60 years in the 20th century without capitalists. Maybe not such a wild world, right? We just can do a bit better next time

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          Where is that “it’s real communism if” flowchart with the “do the workers own the means of production” test? It’s needed here.

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            So, passing a semantics test is what’s needed to call oneself communist and to try to improve the lives of everyone?

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              “People owning the means of production” versus “the State owning everything and dictating the life of everybody” is a semantics test now?

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                I’d rather have a democratic state controlling the means of production for the most part than anarchosyndicalism. You don’t see me crying abour “anarkiddies” in every post minimally related to leftism. Turn off the red scare brain, we have literal fascists in our governments.

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                  Running fully into fan-fiction territory, isn’t you?

                  When you find one of those that is also democratic, yeah, we can discuss the details.

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          Yes, Marx was the one that discovered that people sharing ideas is important for society!

          Also, can I interest you on Andor? It’s a really good TV show.

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      I wonder if there’s a term in political science for an ideology where the people who create and operate the means of production should also own and enjoy the benefits from it.

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          What if they were to start by accumulating the heads of the traditional gold hoarders in a basket, and their respective bodies in a pile near it?