City people. They want everyone to be packed into a 5sq mile radius, have busses take them everywhere, but also be able to walk outside and see green trees and wide open fields.
You do realize the pic is of the suburbs, right? An actually-dense urban area doesn’t have tons of signs that are huge because they’re designed to be read from inside of a moving car, you know.
I suddenly understand why suburbanites hate cities: they see the shitty, car-dependent sprawl around them and assume that an urban lifestyle must be like that, but “more,” when in reality it’s entirely different.
These aren’t contradictory. If you build up instead of out, it’s easier to save green spaces and make sure that they’re accessible. If you keep cars off the road with good public transit, less green spaces need to get paved to make ugly ass parking lots, you get fewer shitty drive throughs, you get more walkable spaces and small businesses instead of big box marts, and everything is generally less polluted and shitty.
American cities suck because capitalism sucks up culture and spits out profitable memes.
Advertising, by itself, has probably spelled our god damn doom. Letting anything be sponsored by a corporation has made enjoying the simple pleasures of life damn near impossible.
The cool thing is that, unlike economic systems, zoning codes are actually pretty easy to change. Your city council is in charge of that, and consistent, specific, and deliberate political pressure can still produce results at the local level. Right now, the only people showing up are the NIMBYs. We need people like you who want better cities to show up and demand them.
Just look at any college campus and try to imagine if those tried to function without walking and transit. If anything, cities without walkable spaces aren’t practical. And things like places to sit and tree coverage are essential parts of walkability, especially further south.
Dedicated walkable greenspace is not impossible nor is it a sin to want. New York City, New York, Boston, Massachusetts and Savannah, Georgia (all USA) have plenty of parks and are walkable with public transportation fairly readily available, and those are just three examples.
Literally city people really just want to see some trees on the sidewalk, some flowerbeds, and have a few little parks here and there with only a couple big community parks to be able to have picnic or whatever.
Look up Verdun, Quebec(Montréal). There is absolutely massive park running along the Saint Laurence River for many kilometers and it’s fuckin’ awesome without getting in the way of the lovely, mid-density, walkable neighbourhood right beside it. It’s fuckin’ sick. That and Parc Angrignon, too!
Anyway the point is that you could not be more wrong.
City people. They want everyone to be packed into a 5sq mile radius, have busses take them everywhere, but also be able to walk outside and see green trees and wide open fields.
Ever heard of green space?
You do realize the pic is of the suburbs, right? An actually-dense urban area doesn’t have tons of signs that are huge because they’re designed to be read from inside of a moving car, you know.
I suddenly understand why suburbanites hate cities: they see the shitty, car-dependent sprawl around them and assume that an urban lifestyle must be like that, but “more,” when in reality it’s entirely different.
Hey, German here. Turns out, you can have all of that. You just need good urban planning.
These aren’t contradictory. If you build up instead of out, it’s easier to save green spaces and make sure that they’re accessible. If you keep cars off the road with good public transit, less green spaces need to get paved to make ugly ass parking lots, you get fewer shitty drive throughs, you get more walkable spaces and small businesses instead of big box marts, and everything is generally less polluted and shitty.
Easy. Live near the edge of the city, walk ten minutes, be in the forests and open fields around.
And a city full of fun and public transport at your doorstep.
American cities suck because capitalism sucks up culture and spits out profitable memes.
Advertising, by itself, has probably spelled our god damn doom. Letting anything be sponsored by a corporation has made enjoying the simple pleasures of life damn near impossible.
Tbh, a lot of the suck comes from zoning codes and car centric design. Here, watch this kickflip: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJp5q-R0lZ0_FCUbeVWK6OGLN69ehUTVa
The cool thing is that, unlike economic systems, zoning codes are actually pretty easy to change. Your city council is in charge of that, and consistent, specific, and deliberate political pressure can still produce results at the local level. Right now, the only people showing up are the NIMBYs. We need people like you who want better cities to show up and demand them.
This looks more like suburbs to me than any city I’ve been to.
Yep, exactly. Actually-dense urban areas don’t need huge signs designed to be viewed from hundreds of feet away inside a moving car.
I mean, when you’re not being hyperbolic it’s absolutely possible. You can easily have a walkable/transit oriented city with lots of green space
Just look at any college campus and try to imagine if those tried to function without walking and transit. If anything, cities without walkable spaces aren’t practical. And things like places to sit and tree coverage are essential parts of walkability, especially further south.
Exactly. It’s crazy and sad that some people are so used to car centric suburbs that they can’t even picture anything else
Dedicated walkable greenspace is not impossible nor is it a sin to want. New York City, New York, Boston, Massachusetts and Savannah, Georgia (all USA) have plenty of parks and are walkable with public transportation fairly readily available, and those are just three examples.
Literally city people really just want to see some trees on the sidewalk, some flowerbeds, and have a few little parks here and there with only a couple big community parks to be able to have picnic or whatever.
Look up Verdun, Quebec(Montréal). There is absolutely massive park running along the Saint Laurence River for many kilometers and it’s fuckin’ awesome without getting in the way of the lovely, mid-density, walkable neighbourhood right beside it. It’s fuckin’ sick. That and Parc Angrignon, too!
Anyway the point is that you could not be more wrong.