• vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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    22 hours ago

    As someone who loves Victoria 2 I hope you have a very 5th German-French war over Alase-lorane. But joking aside my point is about culture and markets.

    Anyways my point is that data around gaming and more specifically the use of data towards social causes can be problematic. Lots if not most folks within the gaming cultural sphere generally consider phone gaming to be lesser, now if thats true or not can and will be debated. What does matter is applying that data to the broader gaming cultyre and community, like I said in a different commment some 55 year old woman who only plays bejeweled on her phone isnt much of a factor and should be excluded to the best ability when it comes to say talking about harrassment of women in online games or communities.

    Like I said I was well within the Gamergate bullshit, I watch sargon of akkad damned near everyday. I know how these chuds think and one of the things they like to do is nitpick data rather than address the point. So id rather break the data down to a fine enough point so we can better reflect the reality that the average person within a sphere may accept.

    Also I would love to break it down by genre even, but like I said this is very specific to better control certain variables. Id actually would prefer to break it down to genre but I suspect that is borderline untenable, and its not like we can use an example game since then ya get games like New Vegas where im convinced half the community is either Trans, Autistic, or Trans and Autistic which would muddy the waters for RPGs as a whole.

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      20 hours ago

      As a trans and possibly autistic New Vegas fan, I resemble that remark.

      I think trying to police strict categories though is a problem - reality doesn’t fit genre. People don’t fit genre. My Bejeweled loving grandmother got hella into the newer Civilization games, my FIFA addicted ex would dabble into furry romance games.

      Even within the same game, there’s vast differences in how people can approach gameplay - I play the Sims for fucked up historical roleplay. Other people use it as a wish fulfillment vehicle where their self insert characters live their dream lives - others cheat to give themselves lots of money and just build gorgeous houses.

      Video games are a combination of art and toys. There’s no “right way” to appreciate art, and no one likes when someone else tells you how to play with your toys. Thomas Kinkade paintings makes me want to vomit, while Cy Twombly paintings intoxicate me - others will not have the same reaction, and that’s part of the beauty that makes us human.

      (How on earth can human beings listen to Sargon for more than 15 minutes? Even the clips I’ve heard excerpted in Hbomberguy etc make me want to claw my ears out lol)

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        19 hours ago

        Dont worry im a Autist who is quite into Fallout (Just look at my name) not trans though.

        Anyways my lamentations that I cant sub catalog every speck of reality must be suppressed, which is why ill settle for breaking things down by system, gender, and age groups. Bout as granular of data as I can get for seeing trends, which is more than enough to beat chuds with.

        Also im aware of how different folks interact with and view art. I dont really have an appreciation for traditional art outside of respect for its craftsmanship, but I adore Neolithic-Bronze age art, architecture, weapons, and armor. Plenty of folks look at it as if it was simply old stones and metal.

        I have no clue how I listened to sargon, I blame middleschool and highschool sleep deprivation. Dude makes me want to commit a hate crime against the Saxons starting with him.