• ochi_chernye@startrek.website
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    3 days ago

    Ok, so maybe (depending on the mythology one subscribes to) he wasn’t a Prophet. Nevertheless, it seems inarguable that he was a prophet. Dude was mad prophetic.

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      2 days ago

      Words we use have meaning even if you don’t like them.

      In English, the word “prophet” has a deep historical tie to foretelling the end times for Semitic people

      It is a specific tradition you can’t just ignore. So when the question of “was Jesus a prophet” comes up, it’s important to be precise. Go ask any theologian if you don’t believe me. Conflating “prophet” with “soothsayer” was a HUGE sticking point when it came to medieval heresies.

      I should note, I’m atheist.

      And being “mad prophetic” is absurd. JESUS didn’t foretell the end times. He never once talked about what was to come outside extremely vague assertions like “believe in me and you’ll meet God”. If we go by the Gospel, he was clearly Not A Prophet.

      Christians are the worst fucking book club I swear…

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        20 hours ago

        I don’t really see what’s objectionable about asserting that Jesus was a prophet—according to modern usage of the word—while acknowledging that he may not have met some religions’ narrow definitions of the term. I can be as pedantic and prescriptive as any 40-something internet user about topics I consider myself well-versed in, but

        Words we use have meaning even if you don’t like them.

        is some really misplaced ‘old man yells at cloud’ energy.